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Author:  jackwilliams [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:39 pm ]
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just finished... an 0 sized guitar....mahogany back and sides... matte finish .... sunburst top
Thanks for looking!!
jack

Author:  Josh H [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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Nice work Jack!

What are you using for the matte finish?

Josh

Author:  DannyV [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:11 pm ]
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Nice! What's the matte finish?

Danny

Author:  jackwilliams [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:07 pm ]
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Thanks Josh and Danny... the matte finish is Belhen's nitro with flattening agent added

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:47 pm ]
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Nice prewar Martin/Gibson vibe going on. How much flattening did you add.

Fred

Author:  jackwilliams [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:37 pm ]
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Hey Fred,
I used about 10% mixture of flattening agent...I had used it before on a few necks, but not on a sunburst body...The matte sunburst was requested by my customer... at first I wasn't sure, but it's sorta 'growing' on me.....

Author:  Clinchriver [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:56 pm ]
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Nice, I'm finishing my 14 fret O. Different body style entirely.

Author:  CharlieT [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:12 pm ]
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Looks beautiful, Jack! Got more pics? :mrgreen:

Author:  Ken C [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:34 pm ]
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Nice Jack!

Author:  jackwilliams [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:43 pm ]
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thanks for the nice comments... here's a different shot...

Author:  Quine [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:35 pm ]
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Very nice. I like the matte finish with the sunburst

Author:  Spyder [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:03 am ]
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Hey Jack,

Very nice, and I love the finish!

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:54 am ]
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Quote:
I used about 10% mixture of flattening agent...I had used it before on a few necks, but not on a sunburst body


Could you describe the process you followed to get this great matte result, it is a great looking result.

Fred

Author:  DannyV [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:05 pm ]
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Thanks for that Jack. Is the flattening agent made by Belhen also? On your necks, do you know if they will stay matte or do they polish to a gloss with use? I really like the feel of a matte neck.

Thanks,
Danny

Author:  jackwilliams [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:30 pm ]
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Thanks for the comments Quine and Phil...

Fred,

I had asked about matte sunbursts on this and one other forum, but didn't really receive any feedback.
I used the flattening agent , a Belhen's product, at the rate of about 10% flattening agent to the already thinned ( 90% lacquer to 10% thinner) not only in the top coats, but the sunburst coats as well...I had taped ( masking tape) the purfling/binding and the rosette rings off, along with the sides and sprayed the amber coat, followed by a mix of red mahogany and brown ( from StewMac).... after I was satisfied with the color coats and how the burst looked, and very soon after they were dry to the touch, I removed the masking tape...I found early on in my sunbursts, that if I left the tape on too long, it left a ridge that was near impossible to make look/feel right....as soon as I removed the tape, I tacked the surface one last time then I sprayed clear coats, ( already mixed with flattening agent) probably about 3 coats...I let the guitar set overnight, and even though the clear had melded and lessened the ridge, I still sanded the binding/purfling area lightly and added a couple more clear , flattener included coats....
I let the whole thing set for two weeks before assembling...


Danny V,
The flattening agent is Belhen's also... I believe it came from StewMac...
I finished a small size 5 guitar for my granddaughter this past December... a clear coated matte finish, and yes,om the neck, it has a tendency to gloss up a bit...I believe that's just the nature of matte finishes...I too like the feel of a matte finished neck.
I'm usually not clear in my replies, so if I have left any thing out or there are more questions I'd be glad to try to answer them....
jack

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:56 pm ]
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Ooh, that's a lovely little thing!

Steve

Author:  DannyV [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:24 pm ]
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Ok, one other question. I'm guessing you you try for perfect final coats. You probably wouldn't sand and buff out your last coats like a high gloss finish would you.

I see Mohawk, which is the same as Belhens I believe, carries flattening paste hare in Canada.

Author:  jackwilliams [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:45 pm ]
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Thanks Steve !

Danny V, You are correct no buffing....

Author:  George L [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:22 pm ]
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Looks great! I like it.

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