I agree, its a great jig and makes joining plates dead easy. It also costs a fortune to ship to Europe and then to pay import tax so I made my own (its actually pretty easy to do
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| Author: | James Orr [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I bought LMI's Plate Joining Jig on a whim this past spring when I was placing an order. I saw it on their homepage and thought about how old the tape method can get. Having used it to join a few sets of tops and backs in the past few weeks, I can tell you that I'm glad I did. I love it. It's just a variation of a tried and true traditional joining method, but the lattice adds to its efficiency. Some of the plates I've glued have been particularly thin, and the jig made getting nice flat joints a breeze. I've used fish glue and LMI's white instrument maker's glue, but not hide. Neither fish, nor LMI white stick to the plastic. If you're looking for a new method, or simply interested in trying another one out, give this a look. http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts.asp?NameProdHeader=Plate+Joining+Jig |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I to have been eyeing it. One of these orders I might just add it. Thanks for the recommendation. Without it, it can be a roll of the dice. |
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| Author: | nickton [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
why not just make your own using the old spanish wedge and rope technique? It works perfectly. |
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| Author: | giltzow [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Hi James I built a joining jig much like the one John Mayes uses and have been using it for about six years. Good results but not always exactly what I wanted. I looked at the LMI jig and decided it was too expensive and that I would build one myself. Well, I never got around to building one and finally bought one from LMI. I am with you - I love it. Great results, easy to use - Mike |
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| Author: | theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Mine took about a minute to build, I just cut a strip of wood for one side and 3 blocks for the other (15 seconds) and 3 wedges (about 45 seconds to cut and belt sand them). No dice roll, just a perfect result as long as I joined the edge correctly. Cost about 5 bucks. |
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| Author: | Stephen Boone [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
What I like most about the LMI jig or one that is shop made like it is that after I get the top glued up the whole thing goes off the work bench surface and leans up against the wall. It saves a lot of working space while glue dries. |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
nickton wrote: why not just make your own using the old spanish wedge and rope technique? It works perfectly. That's what I did when I started out a decade ago. It did work well. This is pretty much the same thing, but some of the small touches like glue resistant plastic and the little catches for the rope just make it nicer. Different strokes for different folks. |
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| Author: | rickoshea [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I agree, its a great jig and makes joining plates dead easy. It also costs a fortune to ship to Europe and then to pay import tax so I made my own (its actually pretty easy to do ) :
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| Author: | Goodin [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
theguitarwhisperer wrote: Mine took about a minute to build, I just cut a strip of wood for one side and 3 blocks for the other (15 seconds) and 3 wedges (about 45 seconds to cut and belt sand them). No dice roll, just a perfect result as long as I joined the edge correctly. Cost about 5 bucks. This is what I use. It's the Cumpiano method with weights on top of the plates and tap in wedges on one side for pressure. Works great. I put mine together in a few minutes for no cost with scrap wood laying around the shop. The wedge and rope seems too complicated for such a simple job. |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Dangit James! I honestly did not see that jig until you posted it. It looks way better than my chunk'o plywood, wax paper and bar clamps. I will be adding this to my tools list... |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
[quote="rickoshea"]I agree, its a great jig and makes joining plates dead easy. It also costs a fortune to ship to Europe and then to pay import tax so I made my own (its actually pretty easy to do ) :Nice looking setup ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I believe that's actually a fixture. 
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I just use tape. It still goes off the bench and sits on the floor. Attachment: P1050207 (Large).JPG
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| Author: | John Coloccia [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Goodin wrote: theguitarwhisperer wrote: Mine took about a minute to build, I just cut a strip of wood for one side and 3 blocks for the other (15 seconds) and 3 wedges (about 45 seconds to cut and belt sand them). No dice roll, just a perfect result as long as I joined the edge correctly. Cost about 5 bucks. This is what I use. It's the Cumpiano method with weights on top of the plates and tap in wedges on one side for pressure. Works great. I put mine together in a few minutes for no cost with scrap wood laying around the shop. The wedge and rope seems too complicated for such a simple job. He has a better method now. Replace the wedges with eccentric cams threaded into threaded inserts. I just use slices of large diameter dowels with an offset hole in them. Then I toss some clamps on top to keep it flat. The LMII jig looks nice. I've been meaning to build something like that, but Cumpiano's method works so well that I know I'll never get around to it. |
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| Author: | John Coloccia [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
LanceK wrote: Dangit James! I honestly did not see that jig until you posted it. It looks way better than my chunk'o plywood, wax paper and bar clamps. I will be adding this to my tools list... I've recently switched to newspaper from wax paper. I've been finding that wax paper can trap moisture and cause that side of the joint to not dry for a very long time (hours). I've run into that mostly on larger joints, like scarfs, where one entire half of the joint (facing the wax paper) was still wet while the exposed half was dry and hard after 1 hour of clamping. Anyhow, I don't know why it only happens sometimes and not all the time, but it's just an FYI. Yeah, it's less convenient if the newspaper sticks to the wood, but marginally so. |
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| Author: | Shaw [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
A $138 is a lot for something that could be built for $20 in material....Mike |
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| Author: | rickoshea [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
thanks Joe .... I have the plans I drew up for the jig here so if anyone wants a copy fire me a pm 
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| Author: | theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
John Coloccia wrote: He has a better method now. Replace the wedges with eccentric cams threaded into threaded inserts. I just use slices of large diameter dowels with an offset hole in them. Then I toss some clamps on top to keep it flat. The LMII jig looks nice. I've been meaning to build something like that, but Cumpiano's method works so well that I know I'll never get around to it. Here's Cumpiano's current setup. It works really well. I didn't feel like making one and mine is actually mocked up from my sanding board. I just stash the strip, blocks, and wedges when I'm not using them. |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Shaw wrote: A $138 is a lot for something that could be built for $20 in material....Mike Sometimes I just like what someone else is offering. That's the idea behind box cakes as opposed to going to the pantry to grab the sugar and flour, right? |
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| Author: | Jeff Highland [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
I use tape like Waddy with HHG. Pretty quick to do two tops and two backs and just lean them up somewhere instead of having to wait for the jig to be free, |
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| Author: | John Coloccia [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
theguitarwhisperer wrote: John Coloccia wrote: He has a better method now. Replace the wedges with eccentric cams threaded into threaded inserts. I just use slices of large diameter dowels with an offset hole in them. Then I toss some clamps on top to keep it flat. The LMII jig looks nice. I've been meaning to build something like that, but Cumpiano's method works so well that I know I'll never get around to it. Here's Cumpiano's current setup. It works really well. I didn't feel like making one and mine is actually mocked up from my sanding board. I just stash the strip, blocks, and wedges when I'm not using them. Thanks. I had some pictures of it somewhere but couldn't find them. |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMI's Plate Joining Jig |
Put me down as a tape guy and I use fish glue , or HHG. |
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