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Thank you Lance for removing the offending post. Although I didn't find the mythological imagery extremely offensive, I do think it was less than appropriate for a "family site". Even though most of us are "old farts" who build guitars, anyone is free to visit this site and I don't think adult humor has a place here.
I admit I found most of the posts to be quite funny, however I do think there was a subtext that was a jab at some of the contributers to a discussion that was previously removed. In the immortal words of Rodney King - " People, I just want to say, you know,can we all get along?"

I would suggest that while the photo in question was inappropriate, the remainder of the thread was fine and in fact very entertaining to those with the sense of humor to appreciate it. Someone suggested it might be a good idea to "tag" threads that some might not appreciate with something in the subject line, like Todd did in this case with the word 'contentious', and those who disprove simply avoid those tagged threads rather than campaigning to have them deleted. Might be a good solution.

At the risk of sounding "contentious" (and getting this thread removed ), let me clarify the fact that I did not campaign to have any discussions removed. I was just thanking Lance for using his own good judgement. Personally I think I'm rather thick skinned, although when asked if I "could take a joke", my reply was "Sure - as long as it is on somebody else."

Nice.

This should not be too hard to figure out who you are refering to. The problem with an unmoderated (essentially) forum is that some folks get to play fast and loose with the rules. Some care, others do not. Your avatar for example. Now, I'm no prude and I could care less. But you have to admit, you aren't playing by the rules. And trying to sell in the general forum when we have a classifieds section for doing just that is not playing by the rules. Rude? Really?

Nice.

Mike

Nein, nein, nein......

Yes, I agree. But when someone goes digging up history and knows it will be taken badly, then what do you call that? Being nice?

Nope.

Mike

Yes rude , I guess the diffrence is when I see somthing questionable , I either ignore it or approach the person privately , not in open forum and create more contention . I contacted the individual in question and even apologized for my overstepping , was it reciprocated for the rudeness . No . And as for the avitar . its changed. So yes , people will occasionly overstep and make a poor choice , having more moderators will only make people less likely to post openly because now you will have more people who want to say " I THINK " the rules mean this or that . My post wasnt to point a finger or make a issue mike , it was simply meant as an example of what has and can happen . This is a great forum and lets keep it that way . If I overstep and offend anyone , contact me privately . If i am called out in open forum I may respond " Sit down shut up drink your beer " and stop trying to be my moral conscience !

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Not disagreeing with you, Mike. The history you mention *should* nothing to do with this thread, so I do agree with you.

We've lost some threads recently that had value on multiple levels for OLF members and I just don't want to see another one bite the dust.

Wud: "My post wasnt to point a finger or make a issue mike , it was simply meant as an example of what has and can happen "

Epic fail.

Mike

PS: Thanks Charlie

And my example is driven home , we disagree . And as A moderator , u would have control and probably act according to your thoughts of the "rules" in the matter , as would most everyone . Game set and Match . More moderators is not the answer . And Mike , I still like you . Nothing personal here.

Last I have to say on this subject .

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

Is it just me or have the unicorns vanished? Anyone seen them lately?

Somebody posted an offensive pic ...how disgusting!

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Oh no!...that unicorn appears to be suffering second-hand symptoms from an emerging luthier health issue. Poor little guy...

Did I participate in the offending thread?

Because (in the words of King George) if we did utterly abandon ourselves I should like so very much to remember.

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Dang it, Zlurgh...I don't remember whether you participated either. My sense is you did not, as my sides have not been aching.

Bahhhh
I completely missed it, as usual....
would somone PM me next time and direct me to the drama?

cheers cw

No drama here. Please move along

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Unicorns! Finally!
That one's wounded.
Let me git mah gun...

Where's the darn "Like" button here anyway?

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I promise I will eventually get that option written in to the software.

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Apparently I greatly offended Mike O in my post here .

Mike I sincerly Apologize for Offending you and for any Misunderstanding !

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

That's true. Snarky, smug, indirect comments should NEVER be interpreted as insults. That's just the idiocy of the stupid person taking things wrong.

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I think at this point, this thread needs its own goat pic.

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