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 Post subject: HELP! can I save this?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:50 pm 
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So I was routing out my top for me rosette when the stupid router slipped or something and this happend.
I was wondering if you guys think if I could save this top? I was thinking of still gluing in the rosette and cutting a
patch out of another screwed up top and filling in the in the whole. what do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:53 pm 
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Make a donut from the other top, glue it under the rosette and sound hole, and install your rosette as you normally would. I would not bother trying to patch the cut through area. The donut glued underneath will provide enough support.
Now, you are definitely going to get people who say to scrap this top so take my advice with a grain of salt. However, unless this is a commission, I would still use this top.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:56 pm 
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its for myself. its my second guitar well kind of third. building three at once. but part of the cut goes where the X brace is thats why I was thinking of filling it in and sanding it flat after I put the rosette in.


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 Post subject: HELP! can I save this?
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Your x brace is that close to the soundhole? In that case, filling it could work, but i would consider opening up the x brace angle so you miss the cut out section.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:02 pm 
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The same thing kust happened to me a bit ago.
I was using an 1/8" adapter on a 1/4" collet, with an 1/8" shank end mill.
It did the same thing as yours.
This is how I fixed it.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Definitely nothing wrong with a soundhole reinforcement ring. Some builders use it routinely. Run the grain perpendicular to the top grain, it will also help resist the soundhole's tendency to potato chip.

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Well theres always making the hole bigger unless youre working from a specific design.
sometimes artistically, things often happen by chance but lead to creative and synchronistic concepts which can improve design and make it truly your own.
Plus all evidence of mistakes/accidents are gone. :lol:

You could make a insert style rosette ala Ovation or a variation of that idea and learn some interesting stuff or perhaps think up some other creative solution.

Of course other factors may come into play like bracing and FB length. As long as those things arent in the way or can be easily changed.
However I think it is an alternate and easy/clean option.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:16 am 
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I've been using a soundhole reinforcement patch for years.
Again, just run the patch perpendicular to the top grain. You were going to brace the soundhole anyway, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:49 am 
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well I was able to get a patch in and the rosette on. my still try and make the patch you guys are talking about.


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Good save! Just make a doubler to fit between the braces. Cut the soundhole at least 1/4" larger than the one in the top or it will be very visible.
I recently posted a question about soundhole re-enforcement & was advised (by Howard, IIRC) to avoid running the grain at right angles to the top grain. He suggested placing the grain at a slight angle to the top grain. I have been using around 15 degrees.


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