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Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:43 pm ]
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I can't tell what type of wood this is.
It came from the scrap bin at a wood store.

Looks like some kind of pine, no?
It smelled a bit like pine when I cut it, but I am not sure.

Can you identify it?
Thanks

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Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:44 pm ]
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I know, it's a white wood with brown bark!

Author:  nyazzip [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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it looks quite a bit like spalted Fire wood to me.

Author:  Jim_H [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:52 pm ]
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Florentin,

In order to identify a wood, close-ups of the grain and end grain with a fairly accurate color representation would be helpful.

A description of the properties (heavy, light, stiff, soft, dark, light, streaks, knots, etc...) would also be helpful.

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:55 pm ]
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thanks Jim,

obviously, my question reveals my level of knowledge in the field, or lack thereof... duh

I don't have a closer shot. Let me see if I can get a closer shot.

Author:  Don Williams [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:59 pm ]
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Seriously????? This is a joke, right?

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:02 pm ]
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never mind...

I'll ask elsewhere.

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Junkinus Biniai. laughing6-hehe

Alex

Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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Don Williams wrote:
Seriously????? This is a joke, right?


Ummmmm dont think he was joking . We have all asked these same kinda questions at one time or another .
Kinda hard on the newbie here fellas . Its Probably pine . But as has been said , closer pics and grain etc: would help .

Author:  truckjohn [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:05 pm ]
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A better, close up picture would help a lot....
especially showing the grain on the wood....

If it was a reject out of a pile of 2x4's, and it smells like Pine when cut - then it's probably either pine or spruce....

Thanks

Author:  Rod True [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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Don Williams wrote:
Seriously????? This is a joke, right?


No, it's not Don. The guy just joined the forum in Dec and he's a newb ;) he's had a few newb questions which is just fine.

Florentin, we can't help you out with this picture, it's not a good shot for us to utilize. So you'll have to give us a better picture so we can help you out.

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:33 pm ]
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Thank You

Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:45 pm ]
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Thats what we needed ! I say pine , but there are smarter guys here than me .

Author:  John Arnold [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:18 pm ]
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Pine. The large resin canals are the giveaway. Doug fir also has large resin canals, but it has a different smell, and the heartwood is reddish.

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:48 pm ]
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Thank You

Author:  Jim_H [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:50 pm ]
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Nice job on the pictures on the 2nd go 'round =)

Author:  Joe Sallis [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:57 pm ]
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It must be pine from a very small tree and was written previously, only useful as fire wood. But can someone enlighted me, what are those bright green streaks?
Florentin, something I've learned fairly recently is that when looking for wood to use on guitars only go for something that is either already quarter sawed or you can re-saw into close to quarter sawed. I come across a lot of reclaimed wood and initially I was excited by everything other than pine. Now I'm more discerning and also inventive in wood choice. Looking at the growth rings of that piece of wood you can see that it's flat sawed from a young tree.

Author:  TonyKarol [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:58 pm ]
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Yep .. I'd say pine as well, or as I like to call it .... kindling.

Author:  Jim_H [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:04 pm ]
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Another name for it.. 'two by four reject' :D

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:28 pm ]
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Joe Sallis wrote:
Florentin, something I've learned fairly recently is that when looking for wood to use on guitars only go for something that is either already quarter sawed or you can re-saw into close to quarter sawed.


Not going to use this on anything specific.
I am attempting my first build, and was practicing cuts on some throw-away wood.
I have not really used woodworking tools before, except for a hammer to put up framed pictures in our house, and well, that's about it.

I bought this piece of wood for $0.56 while picking up some tools at Home Depot.
I was practicing on it with a new jig saw I bought the other day, and ended up practicing cuts for the neck.
I'd rather practice on this than on more expensive woods.

I FIND IT MUCH EASIER TO PLAY BACH THAN TO CUT WOOD TO SIZE, but I'll get the hang of it :)

Yes, I am a newb.
Yes, I don't know jack about building guitars.
Yes, I came here to learn.

Considering I am surely going to make lots of gross mistakes for the 2012 challenge, I am having second thoughts about posting there. I can only imagine the comments, considering some of the replies on this post.

You know the old saying: "There are no dumb questions, only dumb..." well you figure out the rest.

Thanks for all the help so far. I appreciate it.

Now I have to go, because my wife is screaming at me for putting this "dirty piece of wood" on our kitchen countertop :)

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:29 pm ]
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:) @ Jim

Author:  Florentin [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:31 pm ]
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too bad we don't have a fireplace.
the pieces I cut would fit in really well :)

Author:  Jim_H [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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Florentin,

You kinda have to have thick skin to build a guitar in public, and that is basically what you are endeavoring to do by participating and posting in-progress build pictures.

As to whether you participate here, you have to ask yourself if you are getting anything out of it (and I think the answer is clearly 'yes').

For every jackass that gives you a hard time (hopefully in jest), there are a handful more folks who will try to be patient and endeavor to answer your questions and give constructive suggestions.

Chin up!

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:24 pm ]
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Florentin wrote:
too bad we don't have a fireplace.
the pieces I cut would fit in really well :)
Luthiers don't need a fireplace - an old hibachi BBQ is quite sufficient!

Alex

Author:  Bobc [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:42 pm ]
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Florentin wrote:
Joe Sallis wrote:
Florentin, something I've learned fairly recently is that when looking for wood to use on guitars only go for something that is either already quarter sawed or you can re-saw into close to quarter sawed.


Not going to use this on anything specific.
I am attempting my first build, and was practicing cuts on some throw-away wood.
I have not really used woodworking tools before, except for a hammer to put up framed pictures in our house, and well, that's about it.

I bought this piece of wood for $0.56 while picking up some tools at Home Depot.
I was practicing on it with a new jig saw I bought the other day, and ended up practicing cuts for the neck.
I'd rather practice on this than on more expensive woods.

I FIND IT MUCH EASIER TO PLAY BACH THAN TO CUT WOOD TO SIZE, but I'll get the hang of it :)


Yes, I am a newb.
Yes, I don't know jack about building guitars.
Yes, I came here to learn.

Considering I am surely going to make lots of gross mistakes for the 2012 challenge, I am having second thoughts about posting there. I can only imagine the comments, considering some of the replies on this post.

You know the old saying: "There are no dumb questions, only dumb..." well you figure out the rest.

Thanks for all the help so far. I appreciate it.

Now I have to go, because my wife is screaming at me for putting this "dirty piece of wood" on our kitchen countertop :)


Florentine [uncle]
Don didn't mean any harm. Just his way of saying -------- Take a look at your first picture. Did you really expect anyone to identify your wood from that?
Newbe or not just a little common sense will tell you the answer is no.
One of the most important things about posting in a public forum like this is that you have to be able to take constructive critcism. If your able to do that then go ahead and post away. You'll get lots of good help here as John Arnold's reply shows.

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