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Author:  Ti-Roux [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
Hi everyone!

I borrowed a Lmi Parlor acrylic template from a from, wanting to build one. From the begining, I thought it was a Martin size 1, (1-18), but when I checked the buy the plan, and saw the dimensions, I understood that my template was smaller. So after verification... the template is ''small concert (parlor), Martin™-style'', refering to the plan PL29. The dimensions are 12 3/16'' for the LB, 18 3/8'' for the lenght and 4'' deep.

I just can't figure out which model it is... Refering to a chart I've found, It's close to a size 2...

Size Frets Width Depth Body Len Tot Len Year Introduced
---- ----- ----- ----- ------- ------ --------------
1/4 12 6 3/16 2 7/8 12 (early version)
1/4 12 8 15/16 3 9/16 12 1/16 (later version)
1/2 12 10 1/8 3 3/8 15 1/16
7 12 13 11/16 4 3/8 17 1/2
5 12 11 1/4 3 7/8 16
4 12 11 1/2 3 3/4 16
3 1/2 12 10 11/16 3 7/8 16 7/8
3 12 11 1/4 3 13/16 17 3/8
2 1/2 12 11 5/8 3 7/8 17 7/8
2 12 12 4 18 1/4
1 12 12 3/4 4 3/16 18 7/8
O 12 13 1/2 4 3/16 19 1/8 1852
O 14 13 1/2 4 1/4 18 3/8 38 3/8 1932
OO 12 14 1/8 4 1/16 19 5/8 1877
OO 14 14 5/16 4 1/8 18 7/8 38 5/8 1934
OOO 12 15 4 1/16 20 7/16 1902
OOO 14 15 4 1/8 19 3/8 39 3/8 1934
OM 14 15 4 1/8 19 3/8 1929
D 12 15 5/8 4 3/4 20 15/16 1931
D 14 15 5/8 4 7/8 20 40 1/4 1934
Author:  David LaPlante [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
It is between a Martin size 2 and a Martin Size 1 but really neither (strictly speaking).
Author:  Ti-Roux [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
David LaPlante wrote:
It is between a Martin size 2 and a Martin Size 1 but really neither (strictly speaking).


Well, that's what I see... but Martin never did 1½ for what I know.
Author:  bluescreek [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
I think that may be a template from an Antes drawing of a small 12 fret . The difference in size and shape won't hurt things. I built a few off that print though I did learn the bracing was way heavy for the guitar. David LaPlante forgot more than I know. I wish I knew what he has stored in his brain .
Author:  Clay S. [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
My feeling is that the Antes' parlor looks like a Washburn shape with a Martin bracing plan.
Author:  Ti-Roux [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
bluescreek wrote:
I think that may be a template from an Antes drawing of a small 12 fret . The difference in size and shape won't hurt things. I built a few off that print though I did learn the bracing was way heavy for the guitar. David LaPlante forgot more than I know. I wish I knew what he has stored in his brain .


Did you make changes on the bracing? I don't have the plan so I don't know how high is the X, but I was thinking something like 7/16, maybe a bit less, and a very thin double X crossing over the main X to become the finger braces.
Author:  David LaPlante [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin Parlor sizes (John Hall welcome here...!)
GAL now offers a really accurate drawing of a small Martin by Jeff Livermore.
We have also arranged for him to make a couple drawings of both a Stauffer Martin and a rare Spanish style Martin which we hope to include in our upcoming book from Hal Leonard on the guitar in early America.

Check out his GAL Martin drawing (#57).
It's excellent.
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