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Author: | peterm [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Help identifying some wood |
A friend just got some wood to resaw into sets. Pretty wood with a nice tap tone but we have no idea what it is... Any ideas? there is really no smell and its not oily at all.... |
Author: | JRessler [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Kind of hard to really tell from photo - my first thought is that it looks like Jatoba to me (Brazillian Cherry) |
Author: | Chris Pile [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Is it light, or heavy? I'm thinking lauan, myself. |
Author: | peterm [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Not Luan, its not the right color/grain but I am leaning towards Jatoba too.... thanks |
Author: | ernie [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:03 pm ] |
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Padauk?? |
Author: | CharlieT [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:34 pm ] |
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The color and texture look a bit like goncalo alves but without the black markings often seen in that wood. |
Author: | Darrel Friesen [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:21 pm ] |
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Looks a lot like some Koa I have. |
Author: | PoppaWoodie [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
That looks like Red Gum Eucalyptus to me. Maybe Jatoba, too. Very nice wood, whatever it is. |
Author: | woody b [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
I've got some Jatoba that looks similar, but it's kinda oily. Not quite as oily as Cocobolo, but still oily. It's heavy and hard too, kinda like Honduran Rosewood. |
Author: | B. Howard [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Jatoba has a distinct odor when cut, and is very hard and fairly heavy. Prone to burning when cut if tools are not very sharp and feed rates kept adequate. Doesn't look red enough for Jatoba. Looks more like Santos Mahogany, a related species. Only way to be sure is to check cell structure with a jewelers loop and compare to plates of known samples. |
Author: | John Arnold [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
If the density and hardness fall between mahogany and Indian rosewood, my vote is Narra, AKA New Guinea rosewood (Pterocarpus indicus), |
Author: | Alex Kleon [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
If you put a piece of tape on a corner of a board for a couple of days exposed to daylight, and the surrounding area darkens, then it might be Jatoba. I've got Jatoba flooring throughout the ground floor of my home, and the colouring runs from yellow to dark purple and everything in between. It oxidizes very quickly, much like North American cherry. Alex |
Author: | Ken Franklin [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:54 am ] |
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My guess is Andaman Padauk, Pterocarpus dalbergioides, related to narra. I have some veneer that looks just like that. |
Author: | Pete Brown [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
John Arnold wrote: If the density and hardness fall between mahogany and Indian rosewood, my vote is Narra, AKA New Guinea rosewood (Pterocarpus indicus), +1 to that. The colour and fine curl is very similar to that of the Narra sets I have. Attachment: ngr.jpg Yell out if you'd like additional photos or a close-up. |
Author: | Herr Dalbergia [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:10 am ] |
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"My guess is Andaman Padauk, Pterocarpus dalbergioides" i think also it is Andaman Padouk. |
Author: | Kim [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:42 am ] |
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Pete Brown wrote: John Arnold wrote: If the density and hardness fall between mahogany and Indian rosewood, my vote is Narra, AKA New Guinea rosewood (Pterocarpus indicus), +1 to that. The colour and fine curl is very similar to that of the Narra +1 |
Author: | peterm [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Pete Brown wrote: John Arnold wrote: If the density and hardness fall between mahogany and Indian rosewood, my vote is Narra, AKA New Guinea rosewood (Pterocarpus indicus), +1 to that. The colour and fine curl is very similar to that of the Narra sets I have. Attachment: ngr.jpg Yell out if you'd like additional photos or a close-up. Thats a good match Pete! |
Author: | Colonial Tonwds [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
If it has a perfume-like smell it's Yellow Narra. |
Author: | D. Ramsey [ Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Help identifying some wood |
Colonial Tonwds wrote: If it has a perfume-like smell it's Yellow Narra. The wood didn't have any noticeable fragrance when we sanded it. So I'm not positive it is Narra although visually that is about the best match as I looked through alot of picture online. I had just copied this from RC tonewoods and was about to post when I saw your comment Quote: Narra Botanical Name: (Pterocarpus indicus) Narra comes from the Solomon Islands. It is very similar in color to Koa. Beautiful shades of gold to golden brown. The sets have a gorgeous curly figure. Narra is in the same family as Padauk and is sometimes marketed as golden padauk or golden rosewood. Narra is also called New Guinea Rosewood. It is not a rosewood. It is easy to work and has a really nice tap tone...it is an underused wood but one I really like. If you have ever worked with Padauk it is the same in terms of stiffness and it bends on a Fox style bender with no problem. It has an open pore similar to Walnut and not as big a pore as Koa. One thing that will knock you out is that when you sand or cut it, it is as sweet a smell as most rosewoods. No matter how nice the pictures below look, it is much nicer in person. The overall color of the wood is gold tones but there can be streaks of pinks and reds in it as well. It catches the light as well as Koa so no matter what it will make a striking guitar. Narra is not imported as much as Padauk is but in most of its habitat it is not at risk. It is usually separated by distance from the Padauk as being in the same family they will cross pollinate and Paduak is desirable as solid and dark as possible. Hybridized Pterocarpus (the family they are in) will range in color between very light looking more golden and less red to all Padauk which can be very deep red with some subspecies looking more golden brown in between. More builders are looking at alternative woods that are sustainably harvested such as Padauk and Narra. Some sets exhibit a burl figure creating a unique bookmatched pattern. The luxurious Amboyna burl grows on the Narra tree. |
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