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Author:  herry tze [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:39 am ]
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Hai, all..
French polish use shellac and denatured alcohol (pure 100%?), Ive difficulted to buy 100% alcohol here, just 90% and small quantity like 100ml and 300ml, here we usually use metanol (metyl alcohol 85%) and have blue color liquid... not clear...
what you ever use with metanol (metyl alcohol 85%)????? Eat Drink tengkiu
herry tze
Author:  munen [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:37 pm ]
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what about medicinal alcohol 96%? its very cheap and common in pharmacies even in general stores.
at least in my country.
Author:  wbergman [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:06 pm ]
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Methyl alcohol inhaled or absorbed through the skin can be really bad for you. Denatured alchohol might have methanol in it. There have been a number of posts on this previously. Alcohol in the drug store could be isopropyl achohol (rubbing alcohol) which might not work so well for French polish, but I am not sure. Search the archives for this topic, or wait a few hours and someone better than I is sure to help you.
Author:  B. Howard [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:35 pm ]
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I use denatured alcohol from Klean-Strip. I only buy the green label Enviro-friendly stuff, because it has only the minimum required de-naturents added. 95% pure alcohol, readily available and fairly priced.Works great.
Author:  Chris Pile [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:26 pm ]
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Everclear.... available at any liquor store.
Author:  johnparchem [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:44 pm ]
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I use Behlen Behkol. It works great for french polish and it is pretty safe. (but not for drinking!). The spring 2011 GAL American Lutherie journal had a safety list of most of the commonly avalable DA products. The product PEL (higher is better) Grain alcohol 1000, KLean Strip Green mentioned above 915, Behkol 845. On the worse side Crown denatured alcohol 286, and Klean Strip XLS 400.
Author:  Shaw [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:00 am ]
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Chris Pile wrote:
Everclear.... available at any liquor store.

Many states have a ban on this stuff being sold in liquor stores. In Pennsylvania it has to be specials ordered. All because of those wild college kids getting out of hand with it.
Author:  herry tze [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:37 pm ]
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thank's all,... this morning I bought the alcohol 96% from chemical laboratory, and cheap enough... tq... bliss
Author:  B. Howard [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:14 pm ]
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Chris Pile wrote:
Everclear.... available at any liquor store.

Not here in the Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania
Author:  Chris Pile [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:29 pm ]
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B. Howard wrote:
Chris Pile wrote:
Everclear.... available at any liquor store.

Not here in the Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania


A bottle of vodka (or white lightning) would work, too.
Many print shops here in town use Everclear to clean glass plates and other items on the presses.
Author:  Brian Forbes [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:50 am ]
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Denatured Alcohol, or pure grain Alcohol. Methanol distills out of the mash at a lower temperature than ethanol (drinking alcohol) and is the reason that people sometimes go blind or die from home made hooch. Sometimes the still operator drinks a little too much of his own supply and lets the temperature get a little low, making methanol (death in a bottle) instead of ethanol (liquid courage). Even the store bought stuff is dangerous and unless proper protection is used for simple thinning applications. I would really look around for something safer.

Methanol- Toxic (wood alcohol)
Ethanol- Expensive because of liquor taxes
Isopropyl - Usually too much water in the mix to work as a good solvent
Denatured Alcohol- Ethanol made poisonous to drink, so it escapes the liquor taxes = BEST CHOICE.
Author:  Colin North [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:33 am ]
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I live in UK and 95% alcohol seems unobtainable, but, I just had the luck to to be working in Poland at the moment.

Thanks to this thread I had a look at Vodkas here on the internet and guess what! [:Y:]
Spiritus Vodka (95% alcohol) is quite a tradition here and is freely available here, so I've stocked up for FP when I go home! bliss
Thanks guys!
Author:  herry tze [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:30 pm ]
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when I mixed alcohol with shellac... can I pour the color or just the pure shellac??? [uncle]
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