It's gonna be a really heavy guitar! Hope it's an electric!
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | cocobolo neck |
Anybody tried cocobolo for the neck? I was thinking a cocobolo body and neck, kinda like maple and mahagony |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
It's gonna be a really heavy guitar! Hope it's an electric!
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
Oh right! I forgot that those wood choices were for the strenght and how light they are, just got carried away with a thought without really thinking about it too much  . But still, maybe laminate it, that'll take a good chunck of the coco out. Just curious. I just think that it will look pretty sweet 
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| Author: | DennisK [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
You could do laminated with some cocobolo and some lighter wood. Especially if you put it as the center piece, a lot will be routed away for the truss rod anyway. There was a thread on another forum a while back where a guy made an African blackwood neck  Said it was heavy, but felt good (and ate his tools trying to carve it).Solid coco would be good if you prefer the feel of a slim electric neck, as it is stronger than the usual mahogany/Spanish cedar. Carving it thinner would reduce the weight as well. Do you make your backs/sides on the thick or thin side? Light or heavy headblock structure? Maybe give it a heavy tail block and light weight tuners? Lots of ways to shift the balance point. Also, keep in mind that neck heavy is better than tail heavy, since it's easier to counter neckward tipping with your fretting hand and picking arm, than it is to counter tailward tipping with your chest. Although if you play in classical position, balance is less of an issue. I have a couple builds planned with rosewood necks. It'll be a while before I get to them though. |
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
Yeah Filippo, looks nice on electrics, but I was wondering on a steel string. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
[quote="Filippo Morelli"] p.s. Cocobolo is used all the time on classical guitars ... and most I've handled (not all) are heavy Well, my Coco classical was certainly heavy, and it has a 5 pc Spanish Cedar(with Maple and EIR) neck with no truss rod. Back at just over 2 mm and sides at about 1.8 mm. |
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
It sounds like my question was misunderstood. I understand that cocobolo is heavy, my first build was a coco/sitka, and it Doesn't feel too heavy, actually felt lighter than my older takamine, but I haven't weighed it. I was just wondering about making a cocobolo neck for the future. Filipo, kind of like that electrical coco neck that you showed, except for a steel string acoustic guitar. Not worried about the weight of the body, just wanted to get some thoughts to get a matching cocobolo neck for a cocobolo back and sides build. |
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
I see what your saying Filippo. I think that it is deffinately worth trying, might come out with some pretty slick stuff
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| Author: | WilliamS [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
I believe that Boaz Elkayam makes one or more of his models with rosewood necks. To reduce the weight he actually hollows the neck. Not something I'm looking to do but he is a very well respected luthier and does make some beatiful and unique instruments. |
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| Author: | Erik Hauri [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
Be careful laminating cocobolo - there many more ways to glue it up incorrectly than correctly. The oils can be a serious issue with the glue joint. |
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| Author: | Carey [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
The real question is one of balance point from head to endblock, not of weight per se. It's an easily-measured and significant factor esp in CGs. |
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| Author: | John Arnold [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
Quote: The real question is one of balance point from head to endblock It is my main concern when using dense wood for the neck on an acoustic. I play sitting down, and it is uncomfortable for me to play a guitar that is neck heavy. I believe Smallman actually put weights in the tail block to avoid this issue. |
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| Author: | Dave White [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cocobolo neck |
John Arnold wrote: Quote: I believe Smallman actually put weights in the tail block to avoid this issue. Which is also a strategy that the player could adopt in such circumstances 
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