Ummm....you could try outside in direct sun light for a few days.
Or a UV tanning light for few hours.
blessings
Padma
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| Author: | Dave Livermore [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Amber toner recipe anyone? |
I've been applying and sanding back the top on an OM for the past two days trying to get the right tone of amber to match the Vintage Martin look. Does anyone have a good recipe I could use? I was thinking of tinting the sanding sealer (shellac) but I keep getting splotches all over the place. The last color I liked was three drops of amber, a tiny drop of brown and a tiny drop of red in a quarter cup of 1lb shellac. Closest I've come so far was achieved by sealing with blond and then wiping on the tinted stuff. One little hesitation and the whole thing had to be scrapped. I'd just tint the lacquer, but I don't want to tone the back and sides the same way as the top and don't have time to run two simultaneous finishing runs with different lacquers. Advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Ummm....you could try outside in direct sun light for a few days. Or a UV tanning light for few hours. blessings Padma
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| Author: | Dave Livermore [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Todd, That looks exactly like what I have in mind. The mahogany, the flamed maple binding, the whole package. Honey amber in the lacquer huh? I'll give it some thought. Dave |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Dave Livermore wrote: I've been applying and sanding back the top on an OM for the past two days trying to get the right tone of amber to match the Vintage Martin look..............Advice will be greatly appreciated. Well, first advice is STOP!!! Guitar tops aren't the place to try colour/finish testing. I often go through many hours of testing recipes on scrap (!!), so many drops this & that per oz.lacquer, before deciding on a final blend. (FWIW, my favorite amber is in the "5 drops amber/2 drops cherry" range. You could try it over blond or over orange shellac for different effect). I'd for sure take time to mask properly if doing different things to different areas. Second advice PATIENCE ! If it takes you a week or more to get comfortable with a recipe and approach, so what! |
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| Author: | Dave Livermore [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Dave Stewart, You are the voice of reason on this. I've given that advice many times, but am so pressed for time on this that I'm not listening to the voice in my head. I'll keep your words in mind. Dave |
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| Author: | Hupaand [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
varnish? |
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| Author: | Dave Livermore [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Never tried varnish. Got the right mix after a bit of trial and error. 1/4 cup Zinsser seal coat shellac 1/4 cup DA 5 drops Amber 1 drop Mahogany 1/2 drop red. Sprayed on with hvlp gun Love it. 
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| Author: | Hupaand [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
At first glance I thought that was mine. |
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| Author: | klooker [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
Looks great! Whose brand of "drops" did you use? Kevin Looker |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
A few years ago I wanted Joe White to shoot a toner that would match a 40 year old Martin Dred. Joe shot over 100 small coupons of different colors and shades in order to make the right match. We were able to match the Martin exactly as a result...so there is some merit to taking such an organized approach to this. On the other hand, if I were seeking a one-off amber-toned guitar, I'd probably do as Todd described. I'm sure there was some practicing on scrap before he came up with that recommendation. |
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| Author: | SteveCourtright [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
JJ Donohue wrote: A few years ago I wanted Joe White to shoot a toner that would match a 40 year old Martin Dred. Joe shot over 100 small coupons of different colors and shades in order to make the right match. We were able to match the Martin exactly as a result...so there is some merit to taking such an organized approach to this. On the other hand, if I were seeking a one-off amber-toned guitar, I'd probably do as Todd described. I'm sure there was some practicing on scrap before he came up with that recommendation. And I am a beneficiary of JJ and Joe's hard work (see below). Dave L: Glad you got a good result after only a few iterations... Very nice, in fact. |
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| Author: | Chas Freeborn [ Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amber toner recipe anyone? |
I use trans tint honey amber too. |
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