Official Luthiers Forum!
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/

Haze After Buffing
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=32682
Page 1 of 1

Author:  ChuckG [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Haze After Buffing

After buffing on regular wheels with Menzerna extra fine compound I'm seeing a hazy residue that's not easy to remove. I tried swirl remover (Meguire's) and it worked OK but not great. Next was to clean the finish (nitro lacquer) with lighter fluid (naptha I'm told) and then polish with a soft cloth. That works a little better.

What I'm looking for is how to avoid the haze in the first place if possible. Is it the binder residue from the Menzerna? The wheels? My technique? Any is help greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Chuck

Author:  Brad Way [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

I recently polished a varnish finish on my buffing setup and had to stop at the Menzerna fine compound since the extra fine would just create a haze. Not sure why but I just stopped at the fine and everything turned out great.

Author:  StevenWheeler [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

Chuck,

You can induce blush in lacquer by getting it too hot while buffing.
Let it set for a couple of days and see if the haze disappears or is easier to remove.

Steve

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

I get a better result when I only buff to Fine compound, the extra fine to me needs more work with swirl remover than fine.

Fred

Author:  ChuckG [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

I level with P800 and then go to 1000, 1200, and 1500. Then I use 2000 and 4000 Abralon pads before going to the buffing wheel.

Chuck

Author:  npalen [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

Fred Tellier wrote:
I get a better result when I only buff to Fine compound, the extra fine to me needs more work with swirl remover than fine.

Fred


What Fred said.
I find the extra-fine to be counterproductive or at least into the realm of diminishing returns.
If the customer isn't happy with a flawless scratch-free fine mirror finish then what will he/she be happy with?

Author:  woody b [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

I'm not an extra fine fan either. I stop at fine, Stew Mac #3167

Author:  bluescreek [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haze After Buffing

When you get into the buffing it is often a result of too high a speed . I use a slower buffer speed of about 400 feet per minute. If you go too fast you can heat things up too much and in high humidity you can infuse water .
I want things to stay as cool as possible. I will feel things get warm but not very warm . I use the menzerna's and swirl remover. I will wipe things off with naphtha between compounds. Also I use 2 different wheels . I use cotton and flannel wheels

Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC - 5 hours
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/