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| Author: | sdsollod [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Cracked Side - Black Limba |
I thought I did everything right. Black Limba bends easy right? I thicknessed to 0.085", used Supersoft, and heated to about 320. I think I cracked it when I was putting it in the mold, rather than during bending...  Can this be fixed? It's not meant for anyone. It's my number 6... How might I repair this crack...?Thanks, Steve |
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| Author: | alan stassforth [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
That sucks. I would try again. If it's for you, and you can't match the back, you could use some other wood.  Looks like another smaller crack to the right of that one. I mean the other right. |
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| Author: | Steve Kinnaird [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
For what slender comfort this might offer, I did not find Black Limba all that easy to bend. Anyway, if indeed this one is for you, it's a fine place to develop some finishing skills. The kind that hide problems, the magical kind. Or-- You could cover with a clever inlay; You could put a sound port there; You could overlay an even prettier veneer; You could spray the guitar black. It's gut-wrenching, it sucks, and we all feel your pain, but hang in there. Steve |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
If it were me.. I'd scrap it and start again... that's quite the auspicious start to a build. On the other hand check out this picture below. It's Michi Matsuda's work. While I don't think he cracked a side it would be a clever way to cover something like that up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/matsudagui ... hotostream |
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| Author: | Link Van Cleave [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
I would tend to call that a inauspicious start. Get some new side wood and try it again. L. |
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| Author: | Ken Franklin [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
320 might be a little hot for limba. |
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| Author: | Gtrman13 [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
I can't tell exactly what spot the crack is from the picture, but if it's on the upper bout you may be able to hide it by doing a florentine cutaway. The cracked area would have to be in just the right spot, but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case. You could also simply acquire a new set of sides and try again. Good luck, cracking a side is a miserable feeling. |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Thanks guys for trying to ease my pain... I think that I may have forced the side into the mold. It seemed to bend fine. Since the crack is in the upper bout on the under side, I may do a flourentine cutaway... Not sure yet. Actually, Steve, The first thing I had thought about was some kind of inlay, but I couldn't think of anything. John, that photo is actually quite attractive. Does anyone have any guidance on putting the side into the mold without cracking it...? |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
sdsollod wrote: Does anyone have any guidance on putting the side into the mold without cracking it...? Bend it correctly/well and you shouldn't have to force it in a mold as it will just fit. Link Van Cleave wrote: I would tend to call that a inauspicious start. Get some new side wood and try it again. L. My sarcasm was missed.... |
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| Author: | Bailey [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Bummer...That's a pretty bad break. You should be able to find some orphan sides to come close . I'd scrap it. Just be glad it wasn't a $$$$$$ set. I have a couple SUPER exquisite sets that I'm totally afraid to build with and bend...because there will be no buying any "close to matching sides" if I break one. Kent |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Filippo, My last build was a florentine. I guess I've been lucky... I bend the sides on a form.... |
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| Author: | Link Van Cleave [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
John Mayes wrote: My sarcasm was missed.... Sorry, my bad. L. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Link Van Cleave wrote: John Mayes wrote: My sarcasm was missed.... Sorry, my bad. L. Not your fault... I should have used one of them darned crazy faces looking at me on the left.... hmm.. which one for a smart alleck comment....  or  hmm... |
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| Author: | nickton [ Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Why do they call it black Limba? Looks more like white Limba to me.  Actually it looks like toast... I think you'll have to start again...
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| Author: | Billy T [ Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cracked Side - Black Limba |
Considering this guitar is for yourself there is a trick that woodworker use for drawing miters together that involves using glued on cauls on both sides of the miter to draw the joint together while the glue in the joint dries. I was wondering if you might try to use cauls on both sides of the crack from both the outside and inside to balance the pull and draw that crack together after gluing with super glue or epoxy. Once the joint is dry then grind/plane/heat the cauls off. May be worth a try. It looks like you have more than one crack to me also. |
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