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Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  home-made glue.

I was thinking about finding a cow and making my own hot hide glue. Any advice?

Author:  oval soundhole [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Dont get caught stealing the cow lol

JK, I think there are some youtube videos on the subject.

Author:  Steve Marcq [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

I don't know how to make glue, but I do know you only need certain parts like connective tissue, which the cow will not want to give you! Not sure cows are the right animal (as opposed to rabbits) either, but...

Author:  Andy Birko [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

theguitarwhisperer wrote:
I was thinking about finding a cow and making my own hot hide glue. Any advice?


Don't laughing6-hehe

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

I hear it smells real bad, your neighbors might complain. The flakes are not all that expensive, I would put my energy into other projects.

Fred

Author:  Mike Baker [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Firstly, I hope you're not really serious. Secondly, I'm of Fred's opinion. There are far better uses of your time and energy when it comes to building. MHO.

Author:  J Hewitt [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Seems somewhat bizarre to me. Why not just buy the granule stuff already to go and stuff? But if it's something you need to conquer! Go for it....Just let us know the outcome!

Jeff

Author:  windsurfer [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

I am enjoying this one because the responses look similar to what people on guitar playing forums get when they ask about making a guitar...

Perhaps a google search for the Official Rendering Forum is in order to make contact with like-minded individuals (Gluthiers ?)

"There was a famous jockey that never lost a race. When asked how he achieved this, he replied, I whisper in the horse's ear: Roses are red, violets are blue. Horses that lose are made into glue."



-jd

Author:  truckjohn [ Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Why not start with one of the recipes that starts with $1.00 worth of vellum instead of a whole cow?

If you were really feeling crazy - you could probably make it out of an old leather football laying in the back of the garage.... if the idea of "Pig skin glue" didn't offend your sensibilities...

Thanks

Author:  Dan Pennington [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Frank Ford says he makes hide glue from gelatin.
http://www.frets.com/fretspages/luthier ... nglue.html

Author:  Andy Birko [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

penndan wrote:
Frank Ford says he makes hide glue from gelatin.
http://www.frets.com/fretspages/luthier ... nglue.html


But where does the gelatin come from?

I think it's really just as simple as making soup with cow hide and boiling it down very slowly. Not my idea of a good time.

Oh, skip the turnips and onions if you do try this.

Author:  Elman Concepcion [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjBT7WOA ... er&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tji2UD4- ... re=related

Author:  Dan Pennington [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

[quote="Andy Birko"]
But where does the gelatin come from?

Gelatin is people!
No, maybe it's soylent green that's people.

Author:  Andy Birko [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

penndan wrote:
Gelatin is people!
No, maybe it's soylent green that's people.


Would give a different meaning to "Hand" made. [xx(]

Author:  Mike Baker [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Andy Birko wrote:
penndan wrote:
Gelatin is people!
No, maybe it's soylent green that's people.


Would give a different meaning to "Hand" made. [xx(]

wow7-eyes wow7-eyes wow7-eyes

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Lots of great advice guys, but so far no one has answered a very important question:
How do I actually get the skin off the cow, and do I have to dry it out or treat it somehow?
I've located a suiteable cow, I believe, residing in a field near my neighborhood. No one ever comes to visit it, so I don't think it would be missed.
I can probbly make some homemade gelatin from it's hoove's too.

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Lots of great advice guys, but so far no one has answered a very important question:
How do I actually get the skin off the cow, and do I have to dry it out or treat it somehow?
I've located a suiteable cow, I believe, residing in a field near my neighborhood. No one ever comes to visit it, so I don't think it would be missed.
I can probbly make some homemade gelatin from it's hoove's too.

Author:  Colin North [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Any way that gets the pig clean!

Author:  CharlieT [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

theguitarwhisperer wrote:
How do I actually get the skin off the cow.....


I would start with a sharp knife.

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Work fast, though, the cow will probably object! wow7-eyes

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

Are there any states left where you can still hang a rustler?

Author:  truckjohn [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

It's not so much what happens if the law catches you... It's the farmer that I'm more worried about....

Better to start on a smaller scale if you ask me.....

You can find road kill animals all over the sides of the road come spring... Why not scrape up a dead cat and boil up a batch of Cat-glue?

Thanks

Author:  TonyFrancis [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

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Author:  TomDl [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Bow+Build ... oduct.html

render that down, and you can get er dun

Author:  CharlieT [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: home-made glue.

truckjohn wrote:
You can find road kill animals all over the sides of the road come spring... Why not scrape up a dead cat and boil up a batch of Cat-glue


I'm not a fan of cat glue; it is difficult to control and often creeps when you least expect it. You can never seem to find it when you want it and it seems to turn up in the oddest places. For example, I often find my neighbor's cat glue squeeze out in my kids' sandbox...I know it's my neighbor's because I don't own any cat glue! gaah It can, however, be reused up to 9 times.

Dog glue, on the other hand, is typically very adaptable and user friendly with a very tenacious bite. There are many varieties available for use in numerous applications. Many luthiers consider this glue to be their best friend in the shop. Oddly enough, it is made into soup in some countries, although that is generally frowned upon in Western cultures. For more information about dog glue, contact the KAC (K-9 Adhesive Consortium).

Now rabbit glue is a different animal altogether...talk about a fast-drying glue! wow7-eyes

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