Very Interesting to say the least . Never seen that b4 , and NOOOOOOO im not interested in trying to build one
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:21 pm ] |
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Some of you may already know this but some might find it interesting... Do a YouTube search of Togahan Cogulu to see a very interesting guitar. The frets are movable and removable. If anyone has any info on how to get one that would be cool. Enjoy! |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
Very Interesting to say the least . Never seen that b4 , and NOOOOOOO im not interested in trying to build one
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| Author: | clucking [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
About four minutes into that first video he plays some REALLY nice small tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK_PF9WTRE Interesting guitar. |
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| Author: | Ian Cunningham [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
The very first lute type instrument thingies also had removable frets 
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| Author: | Chris Ensor [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
Lukes like a mix of a sitar and a guitar. I don't understand how it would play in tune though.... |
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| Author: | Ti-Roux [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
It's microtonal, but the way you can micro-ajust the fret placement is by hitting it with a punch and a hammer. There is something called ''fretless'', also. You can play microtones on it too, I've heard. Sorry, not impressed. And FB is not wood. Francis |
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| Author: | Sondre [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
Ti-Roux wrote: It's microtonal, but the way you can micro-ajust the fret placement is by hitting it with a punch and a hammer. There is something called ''fretless'', also. You can play microtones on it too, I've heard. Sorry, not impressed. And FB is not wood. Francis IMHO, I think this is very cool, and I am impressed. What the maker wants is to play non-western music that is incompatible with equal temperament. Obviously, this is impossible with a conventionally fretted guitar. Instead of using stationary curved frets that will play in tune in only one key, he comes up with a working system of moveable/removeable frets. I don't see how the maker could have solved the problem better... A fretless would have almost no sustain and it would be very difficult to play in tune on it. Why would it be better if the fretboard was made of wood? Such an intricate fret system would obviously work best with a fretboard material that is as stable as possible. Not trying to stir up anything. I just think the builder deserves some credit. Thanks, Sondre |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:42 pm ] |
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Indeed, it qualifies as neato! |
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| Author: | theguitarwhisperer [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 pm ] |
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The most versatile and musical guitar any of us have seen or built, whether we admit it or not. It sounds good too. Bravo! |
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| Author: | MacD [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
Adjustable microtonal or enharmonic guitars have been around for nearly 200 years that I know of - there's a Panormo in the University of Leipzig collection dated 1829 with adjustable staple-type frets. The earliest sliding frets design I've seen was on Lacote from around 1845. They're limited in practical terms; accurately re-tuning around 60-70 individual fret segments to change temperament sounds like a punishment to me. Interchangable fingerboards fastened with pegs or screws seems more practical to me - still a pain but once a new one is in, you know it's accurate. Cheers, Bri |
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| Author: | unkabob [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
I am building an acoustic bass and am considering changable fretboards. I am thinking of a mortised fretboard and a tenon on the neck with four small threaded inserts. This would allow me to have a fretted or unfretted fretboards. Bob |
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| Author: | MacD [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Microtone guitar... |
I've only seen it done on classicals, using screws into inserts every 4 or 5 inches. On a bass, you'd need a lot of fixing points along and across the fingerboard to stop it flexing away from the neck. Maybe something like wide shallow dovetails would be a workable idea, with the fingerboards sliding on from the side? Bri |
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