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Author:  the Padma [ Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Travel Guitar

So sweet young thing with BIG brown eyes comes bouncing in wanting
a travel guitar.

Here be the proposed sketch.

Carved arch top of lutz
Cedar neck body and back.
Paduk headstock, fret board and banding.
Gold hardware.
Short neck at 23.12 inch string length.

Image


Keep your fingers crossed for me...I could use the cash.


Blessings
duh Padma

Author:  Ian Cunningham [ Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

That looks really cool. I hope to see that one finished soon.

Author:  gozierdt [ Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Looks nice- are you going to do a traditional carved arched top,
or a "combo" with a bent flattop soundboard (does that make sense?).

I did a couple of Martin "O" style small guitars a couple of years ago.
Used an external bolt for the neck, so I can take them off quick. One
uses a tailpiece like you show. They work well for travel, and sound
surprisingly good- I made the body depth about 1/2" deeper than
Martin did, seemed to help the bass.

Author:  the Padma [ Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

gozierdt wrote:
Looks nice- are you going to do a traditional carved arched top,
or a "combo" with a bent flattop soundboard (does that make sense?).



Thank you.

Yup,

Carved top and back although at first glance it will look like a bent top since there will be no re-curve, or very little. Me after that very round voluptuous full feeling to the instrument by rounding over the ribs and banding. See pic.

Image


Blessings
duh Padma

Author:  alan stassforth [ Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

That thing looks nice and fat.
Narrow, but fat.
Can't wait to hear it!
Are those bloodwood bindings? :idea:
Don't know what happened to that wood.....................................
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhk.
If it ever comes back here, I'll walk it up to you.
Alan

Author:  the Padma [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

alan stassforth wrote:
That thing looks nice and fat.
Narrow, but fat.
Can't wait to hear it!
Are those bloodwood bindings?

Alan



Ya, nice n fat looking in drawing, but in reality the bodies length slims the look out. The carved plates and rounded off sides keeps it from becoming chunkie while giving the body cavity a good sized volume of air to compensate for its narrowness.

Paduk headstock, fret board and banding. Me lucked out a few years back and bought 4 cants of 5" x 6" x 12 ft Paduk for $4.50 a board foot. Still got 3 of them and no they ain't for sale.

And sorry Alan...the package is a no show.


blessings
duh Padma

Author:  Mike Lindstrom [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

23.12 ?????

Author:  WudWerkr [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

I really like the concept ! [:Y:] I am looking forward to watching that one get built , and may even try a stab at one similar later on if that be ok with der padma , of course I would add my own changes . :D


Ohhhhhhh and btw . Just HOW MUCH bouncing was going on ? :shock: laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

Author:  the Padma [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Mike Lindstrom wrote:
23.12 ?????


Yes Mike 23.12"

See duh Padma figures me foot size is just a good as that dead French king who established by decree that the length of the violins string is to be the lenght of his foot which became a unite of measurement in France known as pied du roi. Then some luthier dude doubled that and it became the guitar standard of aprox 25 inches + - 1/2inch. No rhyme or sonic resonant reasoning. No mystical import or cosmic wonderment. Just a kings ego. Other luthiers followed suit. Then came guitar production for the masses assess which enshrined this measurement as some sort of sacrosanct standard of the nothingness of the what and every luthier since then simply does the poly wanna cracker mind numbing knock off .

So since we kicked the French out of North America long time way back when and since me one for not standing on custom just cuz everybody else does, I, me, Duh Padma sees no reason what so ever at all to follow an illogical reason for the continued use of the "pied du roi" as a measurement in luthierism.

Besides this is a travel guitar for some sweet young thing with big brown eyes. And she wants it mean and lean, light and short and me rather take an inch or so from the neck than the body. Besides she is an up the neck picker not a strum de dummer and as such really wont miss the
the length of the digits of a humanoids hind legs from the neck.

Me hopes this reply works for you Mike.


Blessings
duh Padma

Author:  the Padma [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

WudWerkr wrote:
I really like the concept ! [:Y:] I am looking forward to watching that one get built , and may even try a stab at one similar later on if that be ok with der padma , of course I would add my own changes . :D


Ohhhhhhh and btw . Just HOW MUCH bouncing was going on ? :shock: laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe



Ya sure wud, go ahead, build as thou wilt.

If you wanna see more drawings of this wishbone design concept go here

http://www.luthierforum.com/index.php?showforum=126

Its the link to me very own personal sub forum over at luthier forum dot com. There you will find 6 pages of over 80 different threads containing complete builds and drawings of the wishbone construction concept including babblings, and rants on luthierism amongst other 'isum, 'asums and 'spasums of little import...way enough to really get the gist of the drift for wishbone construction.


Good luck and post pics.


blessings
duh Padma

Author:  Ti-Roux [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

the Padma wrote:
So since we kicked the French out of North America


Always funny to observe the different views on this, between Quebec and the rest of Canada...

(Not a patriotic statement. Just a remark.)

Francis

Author:  the Padma [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Ti-Roux wrote:
the Padma wrote:
So since we kicked the French out of North America


Always funny to observe the different views on this, between Quebec and the rest of Canada...

(Not a patriotic statement. Just a remark.)

Francis




Cher ami Francis

Une telle claque avec tact et douceur sur le visage pour Duh Ignorant Padmas commentaire rude et brut de nos frères français. Merci pour le réveil.

A partir de maintenant je vais parler à ce moment-là dans herstory que lorsque nous avons lancé le Gouvernement français de NA et de laisser les peuples canadiens-français et nos frères de l'équation.

S'il vous plaît excuser cette indiscrétion ignorants imbéciles et les pauvres vieux compétences linguistiques en français.

bénédictions
duh Padma




Dear friend Francis,

Such a tactful and gentle slap across the face for Duh Ignorant Padmas rude and crude comment about our French brothers. Thank you for the wake up call.

From now on I will refer to that moment in herstory as when we kicked the French Government out of NA and leave the French Canadian peoples and our brothers out of the equation.

Please excuse this ignorant old fools indiscretion and poor French language skills.


blessings
duh Padma

Author:  Ti-Roux [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Hey Padma, thanks for the french effort ;)

No offense by the way. You say you kicked french, I say the English took over the French.

Let me just add, as my final words, the official motto of Québec.

Je me souviens
Que né sous le lys
Je croîs sous la rose.


I remember
That born under the lily
I grow under the rose.


Lily's the France's floral emblem. Rose is the English's one.


Peace
Francis

Author:  Mike Lindstrom [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Thanks, Padma!

I figured it was that or one of those crazy metric things. We don't understand them down here. Thanks for the history lesson though. Didn't know that about the violins.

Mike

Author:  Edward Taylor [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

the Padma wrote:
Mike Lindstrom wrote:
23.12 ?????


Yes Mike 23.12"

See duh Padma figures me foot size is just a good as that dead French king who established by decree that the length of the violins string is to be the lenght of his foot which became a unite of measurement in France known as pied du roi. Then some luthier dude doubled that and it became the guitar standard of aprox 25 inches + - 1/2inch. No rhyme or sonic resonant reasoning. No mystical import or cosmic wonderment. Just a kings ego. Other luthiers followed suit. Then came guitar production for the masses assess which enshrined this measurement as some sort of sacrosanct standard of the nothingness of the what and every luthier since then simply does the poly wanna cracker mind numbing knock off .

So since we kicked the French out of North America long time way back when and since me one for not standing on custom just cuz everybody else does, I, me, Duh Padma sees no reason what so ever at all to follow an illogical reason for the continued use of the "pied du roi" as a measurement in luthierism.

Besides this is a travel guitar for some sweet young thing with big brown eyes. And she wants it mean and lean, light and short and me rather take an inch or so from the neck than the body. Besides she is an up the neck picker not a strum de dummer and as such really wont miss the
the length of the digits of a humanoids hind legs from the neck.

Me hopes this reply works for you Mike.


Blessings
duh Padma


Wish you made that post a couple days ago, would of been post of the year in my eyes.
2011 hopefuls you have your work cut out for you. :D

On a side not: that is too cool!!!
Cedar/lutz travel guitar with padauk trim...
Say Paddy, do you do knock-offs of yourself? :D

Can't wait to see this one come alive.

Author:  the Padma [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

So after reading a thread by Haans regardin the scale lengths of travellers and small guitars.
(http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=29614

Me decided me gonna go take another 5/8 out of the neck and add it to the body length in this travel guitar me about to be build. Ya, gonna shorten it up to 22.5 Also gonna lengthen the tail piece to shorten the strings after length between the tailpiece and the bridge. This will stiffen up the compliance of the strings after hearing what you be saying about "soft strings" on short necks.

The more me think about this design, the more me think me gonna build it even if she don't go for it.

blessings

Author:  the Padma [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Mike Lindstrom wrote:
Say Paddy, do you do knock-offs of yourself? :D

Can't wait to see this one come alive.



Umm NO! No me don't!
That would be unethical of me to do knock offs of The Padma's trip.

I'd just be watering down the word so to speak.

See the Padma got himself all Registers and copy writed and patented and all that and would probably probably sue my ask off. Ya hearn what me be saying.


Image


blessings
duh Padma

Author:  the Padma [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Ti-Roux wrote:

Je me souviens
Que né sous le lys
Je croîs sous la rose.


Francis


Mon ami Francis.

Ah oui, le lys.

Le lys et la nymphet et le nom Padma sont tous la même fleur.

Author:  WudWerkr [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

the Padma wrote:
Mike Lindstrom wrote:
Say Paddy, do you do knock-offs of yourself? :D

Can't wait to see this one come alive.



Umm NO! No me don't!
That would be unethical of me to do knock offs of The Padma's trip.

I'd just be watering down the word so to speak.

See the Padma got himself all Registers and copy writed and patented and all that and would probably probably sue my ask off. Ya hearn what me be saying.




Image


blessings
duh Padma




No need to be trying to make knock off's , probably cant find replacement parts for a model that old anyway ! laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

Author:  Haans [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

You air, are a serious crack up! laughing6-hehe

Author:  cphanna [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Okay, Padma, I've been watching for another thread from you, and I am looking forward to seeing this instrument as it is built. Keep us updated as it takes form....okay?
Best wishes and Happy New Year!
Patrick

Author:  Edward Taylor [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Yo Paddy me name no Mike, mike nice name but me name Ed.

Ed ask Paddy if him do knock offs of himself self because Ed think he gunna need Paddy travel guitar sooner or later for hims travels across the places.

Author:  the Padma [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Edward Taylor wrote:
Yo Paddy me name no Mike, mike nice name but me name Ed.

Ed ask Paddy if him do knock offs of himself self because Ed think he gunna need Paddy travel guitar sooner or later for hims travels across the places.



Ummm ya sure Mike what ever...from now on me call you the Ed...if thats what u wants .

Regarding knock offs....just like peoples, sorry no two the same...but do not misconstrue that to mean that me won't build more travel guitars. In fact this very morning me was just fondling a Padauk neck blank and a back plate of black African thinking now woulden't this make a nice tight little traveler. So yes me will make more "all cedar" travelers. And at first glance they will look some what alike...but in reality no two are ever even close to being the same. And being the same is what duh Padma considers a Kock off the old block.

Me even thinking of putting the Solfeggio Frequency builds on the back burner and doing a run of 5 or 6 quick and dirty travelers instead (all different proportions) using cedar and 3 ply for the plates, just to work out some of the size, shape, feel and stuffs like that. But then.....
the thing is me took it in me head to wander into me painting studio a few hours ago and well the truth is me head is still back there...perhaps if me wander back in to me shop....

blessings
duh wandering Padma


Ps. Oh ya, when you want this traveler delivered by or you gonna swing around and picks her up?

Author:  timoM [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Beautiful thinking out of the "box", cant wait to see it, T.

Author:  Mike Lindstrom [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travel Guitar

Padma -

I hope you realize that shortening up another 3/8 doesn't mean you have to shorten your foot as well. That can get messy.

Mike

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