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Author: | gozierdt [ Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
Ok, just had my first experience with Lee Valley fish glue when gluing up a laminated neck. It seemed to work fine as an adhesive although I had to get used to the very quick tack time), but I ended up with an enormous amount of squeeze-out. I used a brush to spread the glue, and with the high viscosity, it was too thick. What do other FG users do for spreading it? I'm thinking a fine notched trowel or notched putty-knife blade might do better? Any other suggestions? ![]() |
Author: | GregG [ Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
I use my finger for most glue-ups with FG, but have used a putty knife for larger surfaces, seems to work good. Relative to excessive squeeze-out, you'll get the hang of it. Greg |
Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
I recently saw one of the Bogdanovich videos, and he pulls the glue, slightly, away from the edge of the item to be glued, i.e., bridge, linings, etc. This reduces the squeezeout some. However, if you are going to do that, I'd practice it some. It's tricky to get it right so there is glue right at the edge of the joint. |
Author: | Rod True [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
used up gift cards (the plastic ones) work good for spreading fish glue. Just did it tonight gluing up some neck blocks. Squeezeout....ya, glue ups are just something you have to do a bunch of to get to know how much glue you need. Squeezeout isn't bad as long as it's not alot.....but not enough isn't good either.... ![]() |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
The fake credit cards from mail ads are good. I also use stiff-bristle artist brushes about 1/2" wide. It does get better with practice. |
Author: | Bobby M [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
I use these to spread fish glue. Once you spread the glue, just set it aside and let whatever glue is on the spreader dry. A couple hours later you can just peel the glue off the spreader and reuse it the next time you're spreading glue. MUCH easier than glue brushes to clean up. I purchased a 4 pack at the local Rockler store and have only used 1 over and over and over so far. http://www.scolaquip.co.uk/product_deta ... cilliaries |
Author: | Colin S [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:29 am ] |
Post subject: | How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
I've tried all sorts of things to evenly spread fish glue, credit cards, and other types of squeegee were OK, but never really satisfactory. By far the best way I have found is to apply with a brush, then spread it out with a rubber roller. These are made especially for applying glue, and result in just the right amount of glue evenly spread on the surface and minimal squeezeout. Colin |
Author: | WilbPorter [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
Is it possible to heat fish glue somewhat? Would that make it easier to spread more evenly? I have never used it, so I'm just curious. |
Author: | Mark Fogleman [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
I use a Speedball hard rubber Brayer for large glue-ups. Most Art Supply stores have them. http://www.dickblick.com/products/speedball-deluxe-hard-rubber-brayers/ I also use a notched plastic hotel key card/gift card for smaller jobs. Put a bolt in a pair of vise grips and heat it with a hair dryer/heat gun/torch. Touch the edge of the card against the hot threads. Instant notched glue applicator. |
Author: | gozierdt [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
Thanks for all the replies! ![]() I use credit cards for spreading epoxy glueups, and I'll try it for the fish glue. Now that I've had some experience with it, it does have a heavier viscosity than the white glues, and with that fast tack, you want to get it spread quickly. I'm going to try the notched spreader idea next, seems like a good way to go. And I'll pick up a couple of the rubber rollers also. |
Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How to spread fish glue and minimize squeezeout |
Neck blank glueups result in a lot of squeezout. Don't worry about it, the stuff is cheap. |
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