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| Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
I forgot....and left my precious out in the truck (in its case)....overnight....and it was 20 degrees. I'll get pics of it up in about 10 minutes.............so maybe I can get some suggestions on how to fix it. Where is the alligator tears emoticon? The cracks are only in the finish...nc lacquer....and when you rub them they go away.....and then the next morning they are back!!! 
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| Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
     
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| Author: | tlguitars [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Lather, rinse, repeat! (Strip, Sand, Respray!) Bummer. |
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| Author: | Tom West [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Chris: Wonder if you check the thickness of your finish when you are spraying. The finish looks thick to me but it may just be the light. Thick lacquer can give cracking problems. But I know for sure that cold weather and quick exposure to warm air can do a good job also. DAMHIK Tom P.S. There are folks who like to see this on guitars. Gives them character ... they say!!! Sorry about your problem. |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
If it was thermal shock there isn't much you can do . Did you use Deft ? |
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| Author: | John Killin [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Dude, I’m sorry to see that.  That is one sweet little guitar.I'll keep my fingers crossed that you come up with a solution, but just don't forget it is still awesome even with the character. John |
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| Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
bluescreek wrote: If it was thermal shock there isn't much you can do . Did you use Deft ? No...this guitar was done with what I had left of some McFadden's.....I still have a little left. |
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| Author: | npalen [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Chris--I believe you can fix the seperations with cellosolve which is sometimes called lacquer melt. It's a matter of wicking the material into the crack to melt the nitro back together. Needs to cure for several weeks before sanding and buffing. StewMac used to sell it but I don't see it in their catalog now. Here's another supplier with a one quart minimum. Should take only an ounce at the most. I don't see any color under your lacquer which is a plus but still........test on scrap! Nelson edit: http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A_F-Butyl_Cellosolve.html |
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| Author: | Dave Livermore [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Bummer dude. Frank Ford has a tutorial on Frets.com on how to fix those cracks. Just read it yesterday. Hope it works for you. Dave |
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| Author: | npalen [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Technique/Finish/Lacquer/CheckRepair/checkfill.html Here's the tutorial that Dave mentions. I'm not sure, however,that the cracks need to be widened as Frank shows, as the cellosolve should wick down into the crack. You could ask him. Nelson |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
You can use byutel acetate and lacquer thinner . The same procedure . Be careful of thermal shock . It does this every time . Another reason for lacquer but it all honesty it won't hurt the guitar . Just looks mojoish |
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| Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Thanks for the advice peeps. I don't know exactly what I'm gonna do at this point. If I decide to fix it I'll post pics. Chris |
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| Author: | banjopicks [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
So sorry to see this happen to your guitar. I've seen this happen right before my eyes and I believe it could have been avoided with the proper care before bringing it into the house. Seems like there should be a sticky on this forum explaining how to avoid this. Had you wrapped this in a heavy blanket or sleeping bag and brought into a cool area of the house to slowly acclimate for a full day before opening the case I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have happened. As far as leaving it out in the cold in the first place, well *&#^ happens.  Good luck with you repair.
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Sniggly,Sniggly,Sniggly!!!  What have you done? Oh man, that sucks but like the others have said Butyl cellosolve could fix it. I've used the stuff on rub throughs but not on cracks like that. Good luck with it or just leave it if you like that sort of thing. Sheeeeesh !!
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
Ohh man !!! Well , I appreciate the post my friend , if nothing more than a good "dont do that lesson" because I wasnt aware as a newb that it would do that . If no other good comes from it maybe your "oops" helped some of us to aviod the same mistake . I know thats not any consolation. I am sure with ur level of ability she will be back i working order soon . Would like to see post of her being redone should you chose to go that way . Would make a good tutorial for alot of us ! |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: DISASTER - THE CRACK-A-LACQ MONSTER HAS STRUCK!!! |
You could just spray the lacquer melt/ blush remover over it like the others say. That happened to the upper bout on my reso from transporting it from PA back home in a cargo trailor in Jan. I just left it alone as it adds some character to mine. |
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