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| Author: | Bobby M [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Z-Poxy, Shellac and French Polish questions |
I just placed some orders with LMI and Stew-Mac for a few things today and it got me thinking about procedural steps. I'll be using Z-Poxy as my pore filler for the whole guitar and french polishing for finish coat. I've been applying de-waxed shellac to all parts inside and out to keep them clean. Should I do my finish sanding on the body, back, top and neck, then Z-Poxy b4 f.p. or put a coat of the de-waxed shellac then Z-Poxy and final f.p.? I'm unsure as to whether the shellac would cause any problems as a "base coat" or not. I don't have the setup or space to ever shoot coatings so f.p. will be my standard finish except for a few planned guitars out of the more exotic woods that I'm intending to send to a pro like Joe White. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Elman Concepcion [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy, Shellac and French Polish questions |
I believe you should not put shellac under z-poxy. But the other way is ok. Search the archives. There is a thread about this topic in there somewhere. So "procedural steps" 1- Finish sanding - no visible scratches anywhere. 2- Z-poxy till all pores are filled 3- sand till you reach wood and only z-poxy is left in the pores ( you will have to do this more than once to fill the pores ) 4- Cut z-poxy 50/50 with denature or pure grain alcohol and wipe everywhere to even out color 5- scuff sand GENTLY !!! or you'll have to do #4 again. 6 - start french polishing - you can go straight to bodying. Hope that helps |
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| Author: | johnparchem [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy, Shellac and French Polish questions |
Put the z-poxy on bare wood. Z-poxy will not adhere to a base of shellac but shellac will adhere to the z-poxy. There is probably not a need to z-poxy the top, so you can start with shellac on the top and protect it somewhat while doing the work on the back and sides. |
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| Author: | Elman Concepcion [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy, Shellac and French Polish questions |
I've never tried Z-Poxy on the top. So only do it if you are willing to experiment and take the risk. It might be good or maybe not - Who knows. Maybe someone in this forum has done the experiment and is willing to enlighten us. |
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| Author: | Michael Smith [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy, Shellac and French Polish questions |
I have tried shellac first then z-poxy and I don't see any problems so far. But it is very hard to fill the pores with shellac undercoat and I don't suggest doing it. So z-poxy first is the way to go. |
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