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| Author: | timoM [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Let the critique begin! #1 is done! |
We strung up my first Wednesday night and had a small coming out playing session. Last night she was played before an audience of about 40. Well received, but these peeps are friends. I am pleased, very warm and woody. This guitar is going on a critical playing tour including 2 recording sessions, I will post clips. Numbers 2-4 are well on their way. Thanks to all.  T
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| Author: | Bill Bounds [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:22 pm ] |
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Hey: I like it. good job Bill |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:34 pm ] |
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![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up") Looks good from the photos, besides if you are happy with it, nothing else matters. I am sure if you are like most of us your second will follow soon. Good luck with your building. Fred |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:58 pm ] |
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nice to see you did some original design. Thanks for posting. |
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| Author: | Parser [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
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Looks great, nice work! |
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| Author: | timoM [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:40 pm ] |
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Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate the comments. John, I really did enjoy the less conventional parts of the build. Here are a couple pics of the rosette and the bridge. T |
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:06 pm ] |
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NICE! Not copying a factory design is refreshing ! make some more. Mike 
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| Author: | SimonF [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:40 pm ] |
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That is a fantastic first effort!!! I really am amazed at how nice some of the first builds turn out -- my first few guitars were terrible. I also applaud your desire to think outside the box. Beautifully done!!! |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:41 pm ] |
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Fine looking guitar. Cool rosette. |
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| Author: | Loren Schulte [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:40 pm ] |
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Congratulations on a good first effort. I may rain a bit on your parade, though! The OLF's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness: You asked for a critique and you haven't gotten any. You've gotten lots of support - which is good and necessary...but no critique. I'm going to offer some. You made a nice 000/OM-style guitar but, where you went "unconventional", I don't think you implemented a coherent design. In my opinion, the bridge and rosette don't really work aesthetically, they look like they were stuck on an 000/OM and call attention to themselves as separate entities. Also, the fret position dots on the fingerboard are just way too big...again they call attention instead of fitting into a pleasing design flow. You may want to look at Michihiro Matsuda's work, for example, which can be crazy unconventional but has overall design integrity. You appear to be a talented builder and I'm sure we'll be seeing more from you. Keep working on developing that critical design eye. |
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| Author: | Alexandru Marian [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:04 am ] |
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I too feel the position markers should be smaller. |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:22 am ] |
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Ditto on the position markers and the headstock. I think the rosette is really cool though but, I really want some sort of purfling on the borders, probably just a thin line of black, possibly just a .010" black to sharpen up the lines - very tough to do though. Not sure how I'd handle the extra sector though that is my favorite part. Would have to see both, one with it outlined and one with the whole rosette outlined. Great job overall though, just think where you'll go next! |
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| Author: | tim88 [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:33 am ] |
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Tim, I agree with the others, dots are waaayy too big. They jump out at you. The bridge is very cool as long as not too heavy and the foot print not too large. That along with the rosette tells us that you have some pretty good design skills. I just think you didn't carry it through to the rest of the guitar. Otherwise a beautiful instrument. Can't wait to see the next one. |
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| Author: | timoM [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:56 am ] |
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Thanks for all the feedback, thankfully numbers 2, 3, and 4 were actually designed before I began working on them. This one does suffer from the design on the fly syndrome, aesthetically it was truly an experiment. Tomorrow it travels to Minnesota where it will be put through a brutal sound quality critique by a the most advanced player I know. Really looking forward to his feedback and a few recordings. Thanks again to all, T. |
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| Author: | Edward Taylor [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:02 am ] |
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Funny I didn't even think of the dots until they were mentioned. My eye went right for the rosette and bridge. Well done, congrats! |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:34 am ] |
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Congrats on finishing your 1st ! Number one is a huge accomplishment. A lot of originality but I have to agree with the others on the bridge ,hs, and those monster dots! I went from regular Martin type dots to half that size,down the line to micro dots to none(a naked board) which is what I like now. Keep building and improving and I hope she sounds very good for you which is the most important thing! |
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| Author: | CharlieT [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:25 pm ] |
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Looks beautiful, Tim! Like another poster, I too did not notice the size of the dots on the fretboard until it was mentioned. I think they look fine and the rosette is very nice, too! Good job. Kudos for having the cojones to venture beyond the bounds of traditional styling on your first!
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| Author: | alan stassforth [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:35 pm ] |
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i like it a lot. congratulations. the rosette is awesome. i like the bridge. if it's too heavy, carve it thinner next time. headstock looks great with the rosette. i did notice the big fret markers, but thought they added a home made, or homespun twist to it. thumbs up from me! |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:53 pm ] |
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That is a very pretty guitar. If it were on a stand at a guitar shop, it's style would beg me to play it. How long did it take you? You obviously have talent... Keep going! Mike |
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| Author: | timoM [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:29 am ] |
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Thanks for all the thoughtful comments. To all that are encouraging me to continue building, fret not, I am completely addicted. MIke, I built the guitar on Saturday's and have 70 hours in it. T |
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| Author: | Lars Stahl [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:57 am ] |
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Well done tim ![[clap]](./images/smilies/smiley32.gif "adulations") .I am on the same bunch as says, dot are big, personally I would make rosette, dots, bridge slimmer ! . for being the first, its really nice though. and its on the first we get to learn these things. I am on my 9th or so now, but I have my first in my bedroom so I can stare her down  . I bet your nr2 will be even more nice looking. Lars |
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| Author: | Ian Cunningham [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:49 pm ] |
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I love it. You have a great aesthetic and I think if you refine it you can very very well known for it. Keep learning and that will most likely happen. Look up Jersey Girl guitars and you might find some ideas you'd like to incorporate in your instruments. About the dots.....for this particular guitar I don't think they work, but big dots can add some childlike charm to an instrument with a different look. I think you should pursue that if you wish. Big dots can also add opportunities for engraving as you have a bigger canvas in which to doodle I genuinely look forward to seeing your abilities evolve into something really cool.Ian |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:19 pm ] |
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Yo, Tim, Nice rosette ... regarding the dot markers...size don't matter to your ears. blessings  Padma
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| Author: | Ian Cunningham [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:43 pm ] |
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Is that a Spanish V joint at the headstock? I didn't notice that before. |
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| Author: | timoM [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:55 pm ] |
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I veneered the back of the head stock, there were some strange tangents between the laminations of the neck and the tuning machines. T |
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