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Author: | Stuart Gort [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
I'm about to do a fair amount of resawing of hard maple, bloodwood, and mahogany and need to know if there is any consensus on bandsaw blade brands. I have a local friend that says Woodslicer is the ticket but I've heard other names bandied about. Is there anything clearly better than Woodslicer? Also, my machine can take up to 1" width but is there a definite advantage to any particular width for resawing? I have a big Rikon. |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Woodslicers cut real nice but don't stay sharp for all that long. I haven't got one yet but my next resaw blade will be carbide tipped. I think somebody said Iturra can hook you up with a good one at a fair price. No doubt you'll get some good recommendations from the usual suspects shortly. |
Author: | bobthebuilder [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Lennox Tri Master which is Carbide Tipped is by for the ultimate (in my opinion), a bit expensive but you will only need to buy one as it will last a very long time and hold it's edge realy well. Next one down from that is thier Bi-Metal blade (Die Master) less expensive but still very good blade with a very clean cut and also holds it's edge extremly well. I use all of these for resawing as well as the" woodslicer" I feel the wider the resaw blade the better for resawing as it will give you a straighter cut with less deflection in the blade. I feel the "Woodslicer" is also a very good blade won't cost as much as the lennox blades but won't last as long, so it may cost you more in the long run by having to replace it more often. The Woodslicer only goes up to 3/4" in blade width as well, but as I said I use them all so it mostly depends on your budget. So I rate them as: No1 Lennox Tri-Master, No2 Lennox Die-Master, and No3 Woodslicer. Bob |
Author: | Bobc [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
I'd be really surprised if the woodslicer made it through one slice of 8" bloodwood. I use the Lenox Woodmaster CT 1.3 TPI For a smoother finish the Lenox Trimaster is very good. Google Spectrum Supply for a good price. PS: I wouldn't use anything smaller than 3/4" on that saw. |
Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
As of Friday last week Iturra was currently waiting on restock for the Wood slicer line. Might have changed by now. If these are back and side sets do you know approximately how many? I ask because I've had situations where that blade lasted for 12 sets (before replacing).....and then turn around and only do one billet of spruce (and it failed on the last cut). You will attempt to find ways to kick yourself if the blade fails before your billet is finished. The Rikon can realize the benefit of the 1 inch blade so yes to that part of your question. I run a 1 inch Woodmaster CT on mine for resaw purposes. Just as an aside, Iturra quoted me 118 dollars for a 3/8th's 3/4 tpi carbide blade just last week. I own that blade and can state unequivocally it's the smoothest cutting blade I've ever used. I used it for resaw operations on my old Grizzly 14" saw and while it was slow (on that saw) it ate right through 8 inch Cocobolo. I liked it so much I sent it back to Iturra and had him lengthen it to fit the Rikon. The Wood Slicer will do it but not without risk (vs. volume). I don't view this blade in a negative light but there needs to be a balance between how much a blade can cut and your expectations. Chris |
Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Bobc wrote: I'd be really surprised if the woodslicer made it through one slice of 8" bloodwood. I was just going to edit my post for this....Thanks UncaBob! |
Author: | Bobc [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Chris aka Sniggly wrote: Bobc wrote: I'd be really surprised if the woodslicer made it through one slice of 8" bloodwood. I was just going to edit my post for this....Thanks UncaBob! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | timoM [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Bobc wrote: I'd be really surprised if the woodslicer made it through one slice of 8" bloodwood. I use the Lenox Woodmaster CT 1.3 TPI For a smoother finish the Lenox Trimaster is very good. Google Spectrum Supply for a good price. PS: I wouldn't use anything smaller than 3/4" on that saw. Without hesitation the CT is best, if your saw can handle 1", get it, the kerf is the same as the 3/4, off the top of my head .055. You can approximate a 1/16 loss. Planing losses are minimal if your saw doesn't suffer from vibrations due to beam flex. Run the wood slow with a laterally short fence or consider a resaw powerfeed system. Good luck, T. |
Author: | Haans [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Lennox carbide. |
Author: | DannyV [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Laguna has 3/4" Resaw Kings on right now, 2 for $150. I think it's up to 180 inch. I have a 1" Resaw King and I like it a lot but have not tried any other carbide blades. Very thin kerf. I got 2 sets out of an 11/16" board. I'd like to know others opinion of that blade. Happy Canada Day! |
Author: | Bobc [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Danny I have used the Resaw King blade. It is by far the smoothest cutting blade I have ever used. However the hard dense woods dull it very rapidly. Great for the softer woods like mahogany, walnut and similar woods. That's a great price for that blade. |
Author: | bluescreek [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
I use the Lennox , same as Zootman . I found the other blades can't hold a candle to it. I just cut 100 sets on my lennox and it is still going strong. I use ceramic guides. I can honestly say it is the first Bandsaw rip blade that cut parallel to my rip fence. Cuts African Rosewood like butter. |
Author: | Stuart Gort [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Nice response guys. Thanks! That Lenox blade looks good and I found it for $107 at Spectrum which I expect is a pretty good price. http://www.spectrumsupply.com/band-saw-blades.aspx I'm not resawing sides or backs. I'm making an electric body from a series of bookmatched laminates. When the front is sculpted the laminates will create two parallel bands of varying width around the body profile. It looks very nice on cad and I expect it will look even better made from wood. ![]() Appreciate the advice! |
Author: | KHageman [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
I see that Spectrum Supply has the Woodmaster CT on sale right now. My saw takes a 183 inch blade. It normally cost $180.98. Right now the price is $139.21. I am not sure if they do this all the time, but I have not seen a price this low anywhere else. Ken |
Author: | KHageman [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Does anyone know anything about the Woodsaver Plus Thin Kerf Bandsaw Blade from Supercut Bandsaw. I think this is the same carbide impregnated resaw blade that Grizzly sells. Just curious. Want to know all my options. Ken |
Author: | Howard Klepper [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
The Breadslicer is supposed to be the best thing ever. |
Author: | Glenn LaSalle [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
This has been very interesting for me. Can anybody recommend a good resaw blade for a Grizzly Extreme 14" (1.5 HP) with riser? I have a 1/2 3 tpi on there now, but was wondering if anybody feels I can move to a 3/4" carbide blade (and are there any recommendations for 3/4" carbide - is grizzly carbide resaw blades any good? any other?) Thanks Glenn |
Author: | Glenn LaSalle [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Todd Stock wrote: There's no way a cast iron 14" saw will generate adequate tension on a blade over 1/2" wide - frame flex is already an issue on even the stiffest of the cast iron 14" saws, and worse with the extension. The blade I used on my U.S. made 14" for resaw work was the 1/2" Lennox TriMaster...only blade that held up to resawing anigre (very high silica content) and working ipe (same deal but worse - essentially a wood/silica composite). Some folks prefer the 3/8" wide variable tooth TriMaster, and it is a great blade as well, but I think the extra width provides a little smoother cut. No issues working 10" wide bubinga, anigre, zebrawood, coco, etc. provided there is a good setup and adequate power (2 hp is nice). For those with welded frame saws, the 14" Laguna, Rikon, and Grizz models will take a 3/4" blade and will properly tension it as well, so Howard's mention of Laguna's sale on the 3/4" Resaw King (2 x 3/4" RKs for $160 delivered) is timely. Thanks Todd! Glenn |
Author: | Stuart Gort [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
I just thought to ask. I've been assuming that I should use the fast blade speed on the Rikon when resawing. ....but when machining metal, sometimes slower is better so that the tooth gets a better bite. That can help tools stay sharper for MUCH longer. If I'm not correct someone plz let me know? I'll be using the 1.3 tpi. Thanks. |
Author: | paul h [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Where are people seeing the resaw king blades at two for $150? When I go to the Laguna site I see buy two (at over $190 a piece for 111 inches) and get a third free - Not nearly as good a deal. Paul |
Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
Zlurgh wrote: I just thought to ask. I've been assuming that I should use the fast blade speed on the Rikon when resawing. ....but when machining metal, sometimes slower is better so that the tooth gets a better bite. That can help tools stay sharper for MUCH longer. If I'm not correct someone plz let me know? I'll be using the 1.3 tpi. Thanks. Yup....use the higher blade speed. I've used both settings on more than 1 saw and in all cases felt as though there was a performance gain on the higher speed settings. Incidentally, the higher speed on the Rikon is still not as high on some other saws built for the explicit purpose of resawing. Chris |
Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Anything better than a Woodslicer? |
All I can add to this is I have s 1" Laguna Resaw King blade on my Jet 18" and I love it. I don't get to use it much right now, but it's fun when I get to. I was told it would leave a 220-like surface and it lived up to that. Actually I have two of them... |
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