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Econo HHG Pot Alternative- Recommendations? Please?
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Author:  Miketobey [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:32 am ]
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Over on "MLP"-My Les Paul, there will soon be a bunch of near replica builds from kits. A luthier member personally took input on vintage specs and personally went to China to supervise materials and configuration for top quality control. We think they are going to be very high quality kits.

Many new builder/assembler members want to try HHG. I told them I would ask here for recommendations on the little "Crock-Pot" style alternatives to the dedicated $130USD pot. So, folks, help me help them, please. What can I tell them to try for entry into HHG? Thanks from many.mt

Author:  SteveSmith [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:37 am ]
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Rival "Lil Dipper". Less that $15 and Most hold temp right at 140F with the lid off. Occasionally someone gets one that doesn't hold the right temp but lots of us are using these.

Author:  AlexanderLou3 [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:02 am ]
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I'm using a baby bottle warmer in the few occasions I use hide glue. It works and certainly gets to temp quickly but if you can find that lil dipper that looks much better!

Author:  SteveSmith [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:28 am ]
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Sheesh Todd, you've sure had that jar of glue in there a long time :roll:

Author:  Miketobey [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:56 am ]
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Todd-I'd like to add your photo to the thread I started at MLP- may I? Thanks, m

EDIT- the folks on MLP are pretty nice-the biggest complaint I have is that there is a lot of low profanity allowed in posts. With that caveat, there are some fine LP build threads over there and they tolerate the occasional other-brand builds too. The "Luthier's Corner," under "Custom" is where the action is. Many discussions are the typical disputes over what Gibson really did during the early run of LP's; the legendary "Bursts"-- they get tiresome and sometimes nasty; but, they can be educational too. A couple of acoustic builders are there regularly. They would welcome input from some of the real pros here that dabble in electrics- I try to help with views from the acoustic build world-carryover tools and methods-- but I know my limits and I am by no means a luthier-I describe myself here as a "hack"- not really a proven builder. I am "Ole' Lefty" over there, but I have a very "open" profile posted.

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:09 am ]
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SteveSmith wrote:
Sheesh Todd, you've sure had that jar of glue in there a long time :roll:



Who said doesn't keep long?

Author:  DennisK [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:01 pm ]
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Is this the Little Dipper you guys are talking about? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CCY14/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
And it just holds at 140 degrees by coincidence? It doesn't have a temperature control as far as I can find. But I prefer small, due to my small shop space and small amounts of glue I make at a time, so I'd rather have this one than the Hot Pot, if it will work.

Author:  woody b [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:16 pm ]
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That's the one I've got Dennis. It holds 150 really good. I had a couple Rival Hot pots, but after a year or so the thermostats went crazy in them. They'd range from less than 130 to 160+ at the same setting. The lil dipper uses a fixed current so it's constant. It takes a little longer to warm up. If I'm in a hurry I'll microwave some water for it.

Author:  SteveSmith [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:18 pm ]
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Todd Stock wrote:
No problem, Mike.

As to longevity of my glue? Just add a little uric acid every now and again...saves trips to the powder room ;)

If the Little Dipper pot will not hold 140 (really 150 or so for the water bath to get 140-145 glue), there is a wiper inside to adjust...have fun getting the pot back together again.


I took mine apart and there was no wiper or other adjustment. It had a thermal cutoff and the heating element.

Author:  SteveSmith [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:37 pm ]
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Been a while since I took the Lil Dipper apart so I did it again. No thermal cutoff I could see, unless there is something under the shrink tubing. If there is I couldn't feel it. Looks like it just wires directly into the resistive elements. About as low cost as it can get.

Anyway, here's the inside of mine. The heating element is wrapped directly around the ceramic pot.
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Author:  Tai Fu [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:58 pm ]
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What about a regular hot pot that has no temperature control and simply plug it into a dimmer switch to control its heat?

Author:  SteveSmith [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:22 pm ]
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Todd Stock wrote:
I think my last was about 5 years old...def had a trim wiper. Guess you just buy it and try to get one that holds the right temp these days.


They probably figured out a way to hold the temp and reduce the mfg costs. Guess that's why they're so cheap.

Author:  npalen [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:09 pm ]
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Todd Stock wrote:
No problem, Mike.

As to longevity of my glue? Just add a little uric acid every now and again...saves trips to the powder room ;)

If the Little Dipper pot will not hold 140 (really 150 or so for the water bath to get 140-145 glue), there is a wiper inside to adjust...have fun getting the pot back together again.


Stradivarius probably didn't have a powder room. That might explain the magic in his fiddles. bliss

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