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Author: | K.O. [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | hmm? |
I wonder how many Instruments have been built out of a progenitor-subspecies(?) hybrid. not educated enough to understand much but basically Red Black hybrids are a recombination of black spruces line. link http://www.amjbot.org/cgi/content/full/90/12/1801 |
Author: | K.O. [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: hmm? |
so then ya read this http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/171/4/1951 and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_mtDNA_transmission and ya figgers it out ![]() ![]() ![]() A slightly drunken idea was developed within the mostly male collective consciousness ...(actually the females in attendance where of the playful devious type and it could have been they thought it would be a hoot to trick them into thinking it was a male idea). ![]() Now I know this is a little had to follow for some that have just begun listening for the voices but it x-plains why they still talk about ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Kim [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: hmm? |
I guess we will never know. I remember reading somewhere the once they are cut and the foliage removed, you simply cannot tell the difference between red and black spruce logs with the eye. The suggestion here was that regardless of what CF Martin thought they were getting from the loggers back in the day, they would have no doubt been receiving a mixture of the two and/or hybrids also. So if you cant tell the difference between red and black spruce once the needles and cones are removed, what chance would you have of picking a hybrid unless the off spring displayed unusual vigor?? And this lead to the question, if you can't tell the difference between the 2 pure strains and the hybrid, then what difference does it make to us anyhow? If it's simply academic musings or botanical babble, then it has no real bearing on this craft, for if their properties remain identical, so too would they look and sound all the same on a guitar. I can tell you this, in the world of plants, particularly conifers and cycads like the encephalartos which are all closely related, very many varieties can only be correctly identified for sex and 'species' only once a cone has been produced, and this can take years (some encephalartos around 30 years or more depending upon enviroment), and even then you still cannot be certain you do not have a hybrid. The point I make is that sometimes the division of one species from the next can come down to something as insignificant as the insertion angle of the leaflets upon the rachis or even their spacings, and apart from this one defining factor the two species are in fact EXACTLY the same. So to my point, what does it all matter just as long as they all sound grouse ![]() Cheers Kim |
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