it's pretty cool.
but it's $1200!
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| Author: | gullywompr [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hand powered table saw |
I saw this on another forum. What do you think? (I have no affiliation with this) |
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| Author: | alan stassforth [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
might be cool! |
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| Author: | Ian Cunningham [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Bout one of the best ideas I've seen for sure. And the fact that it works THAT well is just icing on the cake for the one who designed it. I'm real happy for them. However, at over a grand I'll keep my saw, but if I were in the market for a table saw forget it, I'd be saving up for one of those because that's just a superior machine in every way. |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Cool idea, but, really.....$1300 for an inverted miter box? Whew....... But it would look good in the shop next to the same company's $300 combination square and $860 block plane......... John |
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| Author: | rono [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
it's pretty cool. but it's $1200!
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| Author: | gullywompr [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
OK, I admit it, my real scheme was to get everybody to notice it's cool factor, and then decry the price, hoping that one of our resident machinists would whip up a tutorial showing me how to make one. Might result in a patent lawsuit, though. ![[xx(]](./images/smilies/smiley11.gif "Dead")
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| Author: | Edward Taylor [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
That is super cool. While watching I was thinking, oh yeah this is going to be overpriced though, like 800 or something. 
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
A great idea, not really that hard to build one out of plywood and stuff though. I mean its essentially an inverted miter box. Could even jig a japanese pull saw with a saw guide for ripping or even resawing... |
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| Author: | Bob Shanklin [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Pretty cool, but it doesn't have a SawStop on it.  Bob |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
bobalou95 wrote: Pretty cool, but it doesn't have a SawStop on it. Bob Hey Bob! I thought of saying that!! (but restrained myself....here we go again! )"Hand tools aren't any safer; it just takes more persistence to really injure yourself!" (I said that!)  Cheers John |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Tai Fu wrote: A great idea, not really that hard to build one out of plywood and stuff though. I mean its essentially an inverted miter box. Could even jig a japanese pull saw with a saw guide for ripping or even resawing... It seems to me that the really 'slick' feature is the spring-loading on the saw with the up-angle. Also, it looks like you really need an extra-long blade to make it work?? Go to it! (and be sure to post pictures here) Cheers John |
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| Author: | Kim [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Good idea but the big question, how long will it stay accurate for? The devise looks to have been made from pressed steel or alloy, plastic fittings, and nylon gears. I am guessing here but it does not look like they have used true linear bearings. If this is the case then the blunter the saw became the more force you will need to use to make a cut and this exertion may cause uneven wear of slide bearings quite quickly. I would then expect that after a bit of use all those wonderful clean cuts they show in the vid would become more and more difficult to achieve. I am sure they have all the parts that can refurb the unit as required, but at $1300 with the ripping and depth limitations that come with it, you would need to stop and ask yourself, is a good old noisy tablesaw a better option? For me at least the answer would most certainly be a resounding yes. Cheers Kim |
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| Author: | devincox [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
The prices scare me, but that company has some of the sexiest tools ive ever seen! |
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| Author: | Lillian F-W [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Valid concerns Kim. Their website has lots of verbiage but little information. "The Jointmaker Pro v2 is identical to the original JMP in every way with the exception of the linear table design–the JMP v2 features a recirculating linear bearing system (the bearings follow a closed loop). They do not need adjustment (factory assembled) and they do not require lubrication. The main advantage is they are easier to use (much less friction) at the expense of a bit more noise. The acetyl bearings are much quieter than steel bearings and we are thrilled with the results. The tables feel effortless and are easily used with one hand." So which is it using, the acetyl or the steel bearings? It's now smoother and takes less effort, but its now noisier. The only other bit I could gather is that the static table is made of extruded aluminum. From what they are charging to assemble it for you, it must be a bugger to put together. Odd thing though is I can't find a review of either version by someone who has had their hands on it. Lots of commentary of course, but that's par for Bridge City Tools in general. Most of what I've read seems to follow what's been said here. If someone stumbles across a real review, please post a link. I have to admit that I really want to get my hands on one to try it out. It would be a wonderful addition to an off the grid shop. Or for someone that has their shop in their house and has to schedule things around their family because the noise is a big issue. |
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| Author: | Mike Lindstrom [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
I've not seen this one, but a friend of my dad's had a bunch of their other tools and boy were they sweet. Beautifully made and worked really well. Mike |
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| Author: | coke_zero [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Filippo Morelli wrote: Chris Paulick will fab one up in no time ... Filippo I was actually thinking the same thing... Awaits Youtube clip to pop up  .Doesn't appear to even be on sale in the UK, if it was it would probably work out to be the equivalent to $1800+. |
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| Author: | devincox [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
this link might be of interest..... (c; http://festoolownersgroup.com/other-tool-reviews/the-complete-'jointmaker-pro'-review-a-paradigm-shift-in-woodworking/msg45126/ |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
I think that is a beautiful design (saw stop jokes aside  ) I would love to have one!!Mike ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
While I woul dnever pay $1,300 for one, I've got to admit I would love to have one! It's a perfect fit for luthrie where you constantly need to make precise cots on small pieces. Just think how much safer this could be for cutting our a pyramid bridge blank or Rosette pieces. If it were $250 - $300 I would be in a quandry. |
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| Author: | Lillian F-W [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Thanks Devin, that's exactly the kind of review I was hoping to find. |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
They could offer it at that price too if they outsource production to China... they just have to create a higher demand for it. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
It is amazing to me this "explosion" in "botique" tools. However, it is not a power tool nor is it suited to a production environment. At $1300, it is doomed. It is not a replacement for the table saw... it is an evolution of the mitre box. And an excellent evolution at that. One has to wonder where the "volume" buyer will be found that will pay for the R&D and bring costs down for the rest of us. Would I like it in my arsenal? Dam straight. But I have always resented the fact that the real money is in the tools, not the end product (witness the various gold rushes and hardware stores, and need I say anymore?) Mike |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
I want one, please.  Padma |
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| Author: | coke_zero [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
Would be great to cut mortise & tenons for necks. |
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| Author: | Lillian F-W [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hand powered table saw |
The headstock angle could be cut. It cuts 45 degrees in one direction and 15 degrees in the other. Depending on how you do your tenon, it could be cut as well. The neck block and the tail blocks are a given. The fret board might require a fret barber for the fret wire, but it looks do-able. Kerfed linings wouldn't require a jig. Check out the Squiggle Wood Video Make reversed linings, regular linings or cap them. The only part I'm not sure if they could be done would be long ripping cuts, like for the neck blank. I want one, even at the 1200.00 sticker price. I lose a lot of shop time because of the noise factor. |
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