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Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
I am wondering if they contacted Hesh before using this name! laughing6-hehe

Anyway, Gotoh has added a new tuner to their line. These are small, lightweight tuners which they call "Stealth" tuners. Here are some pics with some weights. I have compared them to a typical 510 series tuner.

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All.jpg


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The details:

* They are 1/3 the weight of 510's at 13 grams (vs 38 grams)
* They have an 18:1 gear ratio
* They are limited to 44 lbs of string tension (so look at your string charts, D'Addario mediums are fine but heavies are not)
* They come with 4 button options in 3 colours. (the bodies are ALWAYS black, the post and button colours are selectable)

These appear to be a quality tuner and also appear to be the smallest on the market today. They are not too cheap at about $105 per set. They certainly offer another option, especially for those looking for something different or something small.

Shane
Author:  Tom West [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:17 pm ]
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Shane: Can't seem to find the pictures.
Tom
Author:  Tom West [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:25 pm ]
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OK They are there now. :oops:
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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You had me there for a minute. I was thinking, "Boy those are stealth tuners!" pfft
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:31 pm ]
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westca wrote:
Shane: Can't seem to find the pictures.
Tom

Ya, I hit "submit" button before I had the pictures loaded, that button is right above the "add picture button". Besides I was trying to trip Waddy up...looks like it worked :D !

Shane
Author:  douglas ingram [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:04 pm ]
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Wow. Wish that I had a project for those...
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
verhoevenc wrote:
VERY cool. Any idea about price points? I have the PERFECT project in the pipeline for these!
Chris


It's looking like about $105 per set, with breaks at 5 sets, 10 sets and 25 sets.

Shane
Author:  alan stassforth [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:16 pm ]
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gotoh 510's are my default tuners.
those look very cool.
thanks!
Author:  MRS [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:27 pm ]
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I downloaded the pdf for these and i don't know about these. i kinda find them ugly looking. They all have the black gearbox. Even the gold ones. They also only come with a push in bushing. Mike
Author:  joe white [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:42 pm ]
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YUK! [xx(]
Author:  joe white [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:42 pm ]
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YUK! [xx(]
Author:  Burton LeGeyt [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
At that size it almost looks like there could be a way to inset them into the headstock which could be very cool. I'm in love with the weight loss program. Thanks for posting these Shane.
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
There are indeed a lot of options for installation once the imagination kicks in. I should mention that I price I quoted is the price I sell them for. I am not aware of anyone else carrying them yet (I am sure there are some). At present delivery would be 3 to 4 weeks after an order as they would come from Japan. I just brought in a couple of sets because I wanted to see what they looked like along side 510's.

Shane
Author:  DennisK [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
Burton LeGeyt wrote:
At that size it almost looks like there could be a way to inset them into the headstock which could be very cool. I'm in love with the weight loss program. Thanks for posting these Shane.

I like it. Hides that ugly body, while creating a more natural look, especially if you put wood buttons on them. And it wouldn't be too much extra work if you already veneer the back of your headstocks.

$105 is rather pricey, but I suppose it's not that much more than gold 510's. I wish tuner manufacturers would sell them cheaper without buttons, for those planning to replace them anyway.
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
Yup, they are about the same price as gold with black button contour 510's. But there is more engineering I suppose to get an 18:1 gear in that TINY case. They are a premium tuner from what I can tell. Maybe once they get popular the price will come down, one can hope anyway.

Shane
Author:  es guitars [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh's NEW 'Stealth' Tuners
Shane I was just wondering where you found them for $105 ? Allparts had them listed for $170 . I am interested in the tuners and at $ 105 thats pretty good.

Thanks Brent
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:26 pm ]
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es guitars wrote:
Shane I was just wondering where you found them for $105 ? Allparts had them listed for $170 . I am interested in the tuners and at $ 105 thats pretty good.

Thanks Brent


Hi Brent,

I retail Gotoh, so that is just my price on these. So just let me know if you decide to get 'em!

Thanks

Shane
Author:  Ian Cunningham [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:55 pm ]
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Those look so cool! Gotoh makes some funky looking stuff for sure.
Author:  Alain Moisan [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:48 am ]
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Hmmm... I'm not convinced. As Joe, I don't find them too appealing. Hiding the body within the headstock sure call for a lot of extra work and is bound to be a hassle if they ever need to be changed.

I guess I'll wait an see for a while...

But thanks Shane for letting us know about it! [:Y:]
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