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| Author: | NWflyonly [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Okay, I guess just a quick poll on kerfing to find out how many make it vs. buying it. I've seen the kerf making jigs but at some point don't you just want to build guitars? Making a kerf jig seems like overkill for a non pro builder like me I might have a different POV if this was my profession. I get that jigs are helpful but I'm kind of jigged out if you know what I mean. |
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| Author: | LiquidGabe [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
No jig required - I gang 3 small Diablo blades with spacers between, put a mark on the blade insert for spacing, kerf the stock with miter guage and a block of wood to hold down the blank (each side radiused on the router table - reverse kerf style), and then rip. I even taped 2 pieces together and got a whole guitar set done in one go. Easy. |
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| Author: | Marcus [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I buy them, they are fairly cheap. I'll worry about making my own later down the road. |
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| Author: | Darrel Friesen [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I make my own Mark. Usually reverse kerf out of Spanish cedar, spruce, walnut, mahogany etc. I don't really have a jig. It's just a piece of 3/4" ply with a kerf that I fit over the bandsaw blade from the back of the blade and clamp to the table. I just slide it so that the depth is right, make a pencil mark 3/16" or so on each side of the blade onto the plywood itself. I roundover one edge on each side of a board on my router table and rip two linings off on the tablesaw and repeat. I then slot on the bandsaw butting the glue side face of the lining against the clamped plywood and using the pencil mark as a reference. Usually a test cut or two and a couple of hammer taps and things are set perfectly. I can slot up enough for a couple of guitars in about 15 minutes. Not a production setting but works well for me and my pace of work. |
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| Author: | JRessler [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Buy - at $4 a piece from Colonial - it isn't worth the bother to set up unless you are going to make a boat load. But lately I've been doing solid linings, which I love. No kerf lining required |
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| Author: | Ti-Roux [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Made mine. On the bandsaw, just put a stopper and a mark on the guide for the spacing. Really easy, fast. When you do it, do a lot.. you can get 20-25 sticks in about an hour. And you have them for many guitars. And if you make them with some retail of anything... they almost have kerfing for free my 2 cents! Francis |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Wed May 05, 2010 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Like John, I'm ripping solid linings...no kerf for me. |
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| Author: | coke_zero [ Wed May 05, 2010 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I buy mine. I have a supplier from eBay who supplies my brace wood also who runs his own lumberyard and sells guitar stuff more as a hobby. He recently sent me a video of his kerfing jig which works on an industrial scale as he sells it for a huge amount of uses other than guitar making. |
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| Author: | Tim L [ Wed May 05, 2010 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I buy mine. If I ever accumulate enough long offcuts from Mahogany and/or Spruce I would make my own. Too easy and cheap to buy right now and what I buy works well. Tim |
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| Author: | Mark Groza [ Wed May 05, 2010 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I make my own with my bandsaw. That way they can be made with woods i prefer over what they sell.Most places only offer mahogany or basswood which i don't like to use anyway. |
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| Author: | Tom West [ Wed May 05, 2010 7:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Make my own. One of those jobs where you can get a rhythm going and crank out piece after piece. I made and used reverse linings for the first time last winter on three guitars. As Mr. stock says easy to make,easy to glue. And much easier and neater to do the in letting for braces. I'm not going back to triangular. Reverse also stiffen up the sides very nicely. Tom |
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| Author: | jncllc [ Wed May 05, 2010 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I got a question for you guys that make them. Do you need to use qtr.sawn or will plane sawn work? |
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| Author: | Ian Cunningham [ Wed May 05, 2010 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Another vote for solid linings. They just look so much more elegant to me, plus they stiffen up the sides a bit. |
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| Author: | woody b [ Wed May 05, 2010 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I made enough for 8 builds a while back(reverse, on my band saw) but after using it up I went back to buying it. For me it's not expensive to buy, and life's too short to spend time making kerfing. I may try solid linings sometime just for kicks. |
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| Author: | cwood8656 [ Wed May 05, 2010 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I buy it. I'd rather spend time on the fun parts of the build. Chris. |
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| Author: | John How [ Wed May 05, 2010 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I make my own in a large batch but I am thinking about trying some of Kevin Ryans cool stuff soon. |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Wed May 05, 2010 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Solid or laminated linings for me as well. |
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| Author: | RaymundH [ Thu May 06, 2010 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I did 8 guitars worth one night and will probably never do that again... Many of our sponsors here sell it so cost effectively in assorted styles and species that it's really hard to justify going cross eyed cutting kerfs. I have to give a thumbs up to Kevin Ryan's lining as it's so easy to install and basically just cool! Ray |
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| Author: | NWflyonly [ Thu May 06, 2010 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Thanks I appreciate the input. I've never tried solid linings I'll have to check it out. |
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| Author: | douglas ingram [ Thu May 06, 2010 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I make my own. It really is easy and fast. I am also of the mind that if I am making a guitar, I am making the whole guitar. I also don't buy pre carved necks or bridges, slotted fingerboards, etc... Many peopled do, I'm not putting them down, but it just never occurs to me to buy that stuff. |
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| Author: | Alain Moisan [ Thu May 06, 2010 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
douglas ingram wrote: I make my own. It really is easy and fast. I am also of the mind that if I am making a guitar, I am making the whole guitar. I also don't buy pre carved necks or bridges, slotted fingerboards, etc... Many peopled do, I'm not putting them down, but it just never occurs to me to buy that stuff. Ditto. |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Thu May 06, 2010 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Alain Moisan wrote: douglas ingram wrote: I make my own. It really is easy and fast. I am also of the mind that if I am making a guitar, I am making the whole guitar. I also don't buy pre carved necks or bridges, slotted fingerboards, etc... Many peopled do, I'm not putting them down, but it just never occurs to me to buy that stuff. Ditto. Ditto (...maybe it's a Canadian thing!  )(I did a tutorial long time ago on reverse style if anyone's interested) |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Thu May 06, 2010 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
My kerfed linings have all been purchased, but I'm tending now towards laminated linings, or using the individual little blocks when needed for classical builds. |
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| Author: | Daniel Minard [ Thu May 06, 2010 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
I make mine too. Three blades ganged together with spacers (.290" alum discs) and a sled like the one used to cut fret slots. I tape ten to twelve pieces together & go at it. In an easy few hours, I can make enough for ten or fifteen guitars. If I was building one or two guitars a year, I buy 'em. Nice thing about building your own is you can get them as flexible or as stiff as you want. And you can use better material than some suppliers use. (less breakage) I'm thinking about solid linings too, these days. Next guitar, I'm gonna give 'em a try. |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Thu May 06, 2010 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kerfing...Make?...Buy? |
Us Canadians are a frugal bunch, it is said in Florida that Canadian tourists are like Catamaran sail boats, never tip. So far I have used uncle Bob from RC kerf lining so I am the different Canadian, but some may think those of us in South western Ontario are not real Canadians anyhow. Fred |
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