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Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
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Author:  morgdan [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
I'm beginning a new project: a Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale guitar. At the customer's request I'm trying to stick with Martin dimensions as much as possible.

I have a tracing pattern with body shape and bracing layout.

What I don't have is specs for the sound hole. (I also don't know anyone in my neck of the woods with this kind of guitar).

Can someone tell me the position of the soundhole (i.e. distance from 12th fret to center) and the diameter of the soundhole?

Any other information about these guitars would be lovely (links, etc).

Thanks!

Morgan.
Author:  Pat Foster [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Dan,

They're commonly 3 3/4" dia.

Put it just south of the end of a 20-fret fretboard and you'll be close enough.

Pat
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
On most guitars I saw it seems to start just a bit behind the 21th fret line.

Nice guitar and spruce Todd.
Author:  Kevin Waldron [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Hope this helps.

Kevin Waldron
http://www.guitartemplates.net
Author:  morgdan [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Thank you all. This will help me tremendously!
Author:  TonyKarol [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
not sure whose plan that is, but I make mine 6.75 to centre from the 12th fret, with a 20 fret board (bound to about the 21st) .. X brace is 1/4 x 1/2 as well ....
Author:  Tim L [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Things have probably changed over time but my 1927 00-21 is 6.920" from the 12th fret to the soundhole C/L. Transverse brace is .253 x .600 ( pretty thin )and the X is .250 x .500.

Tim
Author:  Tim L [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Things have probably changed over time but my 1927 00-21 is 6.920" from the 12th fret to the soundhole C/L. Transverse brace is .253 x .600 ( pretty thin )and the X is .250 x .500.

Tim
Author:  bluescreek [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
If you want to follow Martin traditional the sound hole is 3 3/4 as stated . The position of the sound hole will be 1/8 below the end of the fretboard. So if you have the fretboard plot the center of the sound hole to fall there
Author:  David LaPlante [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Martin supplied 00s over the years with 18, 19 and 20 fret fingerbards at various times.
Of course the earliest 19th century 00s had 18 frets but moved to 19 and 20 in the early 20th century.
In the 1960s the 000-21NY had a 19 fret board again while the concurrently produced 00-21 had a 20 fret. Later when the NY model was dropped the regular 00-21 went back to 19. Confusing?
Anyway, I kind of like the look of these with 19 where the board is trimmed at the 20th fret position and located exactly midway of the innermost rosette ring.
These guitars almost always (the 1970's 00-45 had a long 25.4" board) used a 24.9" scale.

A classic American design and perhaps the most beautiful of all.
Author:  morgdan [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Martin-style 00 12-fret short-scale
Wow! I really appreciate all the info.

I'm fairly new to OLF and I sure am appreciating the value in this kind of community. I was spending hours googling and trying to find random info and not coming up with much. It's so much nicer to throw a question out there and have people who are genuinely interested in the subject come to my aid. Thanks!
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