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Author:  Bailey [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  fret popped

All strung up on my first fan fret classical....In tune....action PERFECT....and HARK....after 20 minutes of playing I hear a 7th. fret buzz and the fret has popped (arched) up in the center. I can easily push it back down but doesn't stay. I did CA the ends when I installed them. Can I use thin CA along fret and push into place until set....or is this a bad idea? Or....do I pop it off and install a new fret? My assumption is that SOMEHOW my fret slot ended up a hair wide. If a new fret has the same issue...what is my solution to this problem?
Kent

Author:  Barry Daniels [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: fret popped

Use a drop of thin CA and have a tool handy to push the fret down and hold it for several minutes. Don't let excess glue run down onto the finished neck as it will ruin the finish.

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: fret popped

Kent-
Congrats on your new guitar!
No harm in trying the CA 'quick fix' on this. If that doesn't work, then:

I'd probably put in a new chunk of fretwire, for a start.
If you are careful, you can 'ding' the tang a bit to make it fit tighter.
If you check out the commercial tool for this, you can figure out how to improvise something in your shop.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Pullers,_nippers,_sizing/Fret_Fitter.html

I think CA is better for 'insurance' with frets that fit reasonably well- I'd hesitate to depend on it to hold down a really loose fret, especially on a new guitar.

Cheers
John

Author:  Bailey [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: fret popped

Thanks,
I have the CA ready to go and a 1 " wide 1/2 fret tall slotted stick to hold it in place for a few minutes. I hope it doesn't stain my fretboard. I'll try to wipe off any excess as fast as I can while holding it down.
Kent

Author:  Colin North [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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I have CA'd loose frets down too.
Handy tip from someone on the forum (the name escapes me, but thank you) to spot small drops of CA was to use a needle with the end ground off the eye (I push the point into a dowel for a handle).
A bit like a fountain pen nib, works really well.

-Too late!!?

Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:21 pm ]
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Not a pro but I've CA'd whole fretboards. Works fine; I learned it from a pro.

Author:  Bailey [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: fret popped

I actually took Johns advice and installed a new fret first. It held so far.....but didn't take much to pound it in. I may end up CA gluing this one in down the road anyway.

The needle thing is a good idea. I've used a toothpick for tiny applications before.

Kent

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: fret popped

Wax the fretboard on each side of the fret and run some thin CA under the fret, it will wick into the slot from there.

I was the needle eye CA applicator contributor quite a while back, but the idea came from the model airplane fliers. If you put a drop of CA on a piece of wax paper it will lay there without hardening for quite a long time. If I need bigger drops than the needle eye gives I dip a pipette into the puddle of CA without sucking it in and you get a nice drop. That is how I do frets as it is easier to control than a full pipette. A word of caution though, don't lay your arm or elbow in the CA puddle on the wax paper, don't ask how I figured that out.

A cheaper debonder is also available, nitro methane does a great job, they probably spill a life time supply for one of us while fueling a nitro dragster at the track.

Fred

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