WaddyThomson wrote:
Not sure how to stack the heel. maybe i'll just leave it plain.
Please leave it plain!
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
I always thought 5 piece necks were cool looking. I thought, maybe, a 5 piece V-Joint would be cooler, so i decided to try one on my #5 classical. Here is some of the progress so far. Gluing up the blank. Attachment: P1030502 (Large).JPG Tried to mark it and cut by hand and chisel it true. Didn't work. Always thought doing it on a table saw would be a good option, so I made a sled with the right angle. Back side Attachment: P1030515 (Large).JPG Front side. Attachment: P1030516 (Large).JPG After a few tries, got a decent cut. This is the back side. Attachment: P1030520 (Large).JPG Top of neck. Attachment: P1030521 (Large).JPG Fitting up the head piece. Attachment: P1030528 (Large).JPG Set up for gluing with HHG. Attachment: P1030530 (Large).JPG Gluing up. Attachment: P1030531 (Large).JPG That's where I quit, tonight. |
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| Author: | walnut47 [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
That is really sweet. Love it! |
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| Author: | Edward Taylor [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Looks good, is the dark wood rosewood? |
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| Author: | Tim L [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
I've been tempted to do one of those with a peghead in a contrasting wood. Thanks for sharing that, cool way to make a neck and have a head start on the diamond volute. Tim |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Thanks! Yes the dark is EIR from some orphan sides I bought from Shane. They had some white specks in the face, mineral deposits, I assume, but it doesn't seem to show from the edge. The center is Curly Maple. Not sure how to stack the heel. maybe i'll just leave it plain. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Tim, missed your post. Thanks. This will be a classical, so I won't put a diamond volute on it. What I will do, is expose the V in the back of the headstock by cutting back strap around it. Like I did with #'s 2 & 4, like this. Attachment: P1030469 (Large).JPG
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| Author: | Haans [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Nice job, Waddy! I use those joints on my 12 strings and they're strong. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Thanks, Haans! |
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| Author: | Rick Cowan [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Very cool Waddy! Appreciate the pics - I learn so much from how members of the forum approach different challenges. I need a bigger head to park all this info! Rick |
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| Author: | Alexandru Marian [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
WaddyThomson wrote: Not sure how to stack the heel. maybe i'll just leave it plain. Please leave it plain!
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
I think it would look better. Not sure how a striped Spanish Foot would look! I wonder if I should cut the neck back to the 9th fret thickness, or close, before I install the heel stack? |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Mine isn't a V joint but this would give you an idea of what a the V might look like for a future project with a 5 piece neck. That's if you build any steel strings. I know the info is out there but what is the angle of the V cut. I'm feeling lazy today. 
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| Author: | Tom West [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Waddy: Looks good and going to be a very nice neck...! You are much more skilled then this writer...!! Tom |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Again not a spanish heel but it might give you some idea or ideas. |
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Waddy ; I have a old video of the German maker Karl Hannabach cutting the V joint by hand ! He had the Masters title that you had to earn in his day. There are some amazing things he does with a big pointed knife -like the Mexican makers use. Nice work sir ! I love the look of that joint! Mike |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Mike, I did my first three by hand, and I was going to do this one by hand. Got the V rough cut, and when trying to clean up with a chisel, found out that the grains were all over the place, and it would cut smooth and then dig a hole when you crossed to another grain pattern. I wasn't having fun any more. Even using the table saw, I had to fit it by hand to get a hide glue fit. You can only cut part of the inside V with a table saw due to the thickness of the blade, so you have to cut short, and finish by hand. Here is where I had back cut to the scribe marks to prepare for sawing the joint. Attachment: P1030509 (Large).JPG
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Is that African hog? That stuff I love ,but it's killer to cut clean with a knife. or chisel. But that's what Hauser used ! Another master maker. Mike |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
No it's Spanish Cedar, but it's the most dense Sp Cedar I have seen. It might as well be African Hog. |
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5 Piece V-Joint Neck - Just for fun. |
Wow ! I have some like that also ! They are both in the same family. Just not usually the same density ! Cedrela can rip out easy also. Mike |
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