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Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

I recently used a backstrip from LMI (http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproduc ... Backstrips, B16B, Cheveron). Really liked the color match. But after sanding board to 0.1", the whole thing simply split in half (along the centerline of the purfling). I even laminated the other side! Anybody ever have this happen? Suggestions?

Mike

Author:  Tom West [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Mike: Have used LMI's backstripes but not this one .I've used B120B a number of times and have not a problem.I put these in when I join the top and then after sanding to thickness I flood both sides of strip with thin CA glue. Knock on wood I have not had a problem YET....!!!
Tom

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Mike-
Did you inlay the backstrip or include it (sandwich) in the back glue-up?
When you say that you 'laminated the other side' - was this your cross-grain back seam reinforcement?

Can you get the seam to close for re-gluing (and more reinforcement)?

Cheers
John

Author:  Haans [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Yup, i've had those problems with the large Washburn like strip. I cyano'd them and still had problems. I've stopped using them as part of the glue up, and now rout them in. I also have taken to glueing the inside spruce center strip in with industrial epoxy. No more problems...

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Very dissapointed. I will recover the back, but will never use a premade strip that has an obvious failure mode down the center line. Only way I would use it is as an inlay.

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

But I do appreciate the replies. If you look at a lot of the premade strips, many do not have a failure mode down the center. Note to self.

Author:  Mike Franks [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Mike, I've used at least a hundred of them and have never had a problem. After I trim the back, I usually take the scrap cutoff piece and purposly break it. Most often, the 2 halves will break at the seam of the backstrip, not the center. I think you got a bad strip.

Mike Franks
www.mjfranksguitar.com

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

Realy? U think bad strip?

Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstrip Problem (posted in wrong forum)

The only decoration I somewhat trust to be sandwiched contains simple wood and veneers, and I go at great lengths to ensure very good joints. And then when I plane and scrape the back thin I always make sure not to pull on the seam, but push towards it or at least parallel, if that makes sense. I think the marquetry stuff is safer if inlaid in a routed channel. I would not sandwich it.

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