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Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:32 am ]
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I posted a few pictures of the rosette for #4, in the "What's happening in your shop" thread, so I figured I'd show the outcome here.

Here is the rough rosette, after gluing into the top.
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Cleaning it up with plane and scraper.
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Almost there.
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Through the magnifying lens.
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The OOPS moment!
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Gluing in a new tile and the filler for the center of the channel.
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The finished rosette. The repair wasn't perfect, but will be pretty invisible as it will be right next to the fingerboard.
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Now, on to making braces, and thinning the edges of the top to prepare for fan brace and TB gluing.

Thanks for looking.
Author:  Mike Collins [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:35 am ]
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Looks great Waddy [:Y:]
I like it.

Mke
Author:  Lars Stahl [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:36 am ]
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Now, that is beautiful waddy. Absolutely beautiful. [clap] [clap] [clap]

Look forward to see the finished guitar.

Lars
Author:  SteveCourtright [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:37 am ]
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Spectacular, Waddy.
Author:  Hesh [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:37 am ]
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Absolutely gorgeous Waddy bro!!!! [:Y:]
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:37 am ]
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Thanks, Mike. I used the Fish Glue flooding method. How much did you thin it when you did it?
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:51 am ]
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Hmm, why asymmetrical.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:59 am ]
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Hmmm, why not? i really hate rosettes that are too wide, and I was trying to not make it too bland, which the little blocks were going to do, so I added the little strip of slash purfling, left over from other builds. I also neede to keep the radius for the tiles in the same general location for it to be right.
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:27 pm ]
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I like narrower rosettes too. Mine are 17.5mm now. I like symmetry myself - maybe I would have left the rope band out, and add an extra black and white at the soundhole inner circle. But that is just me.

I hope I have not offended. Except that heretical asymmetry, it looks great. Also joinery is very very clean. [:Y:]
Author:  StevenWheeler [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:38 pm ]
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Looks fabulous Waddy!

And don't forget to thank Alexandru for your new signature line.
"Waddy Thompson, purveyor of heretical asymmetry"
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:50 pm ]
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:twisted: where are those matches. I bet that spruce burns with a musical crackling tone.
Author:  Mike Collins [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:04 pm ]
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Waddy;
I used 2 oz. water to 1 oz. of glue.
I worked fine.
Thinning it allot may kill the glues ability to hold.
I'm glad ya tried it .

Mc
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:22 pm ]
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Thanks, folks!

Alex, I'm not offended. It would take more than that. Everyone has different tastes. Also, depending on how you look at it, it is symmetrical! The left half looks just like the right half! This one is right at 18mm.

Mike, I think I'm OK then, I did about 50/50 on the mix. It wasn't as liquid as I thought it'd be, but seemed to soak through, without issue. I put it on then, sort of, massaged it into the rosette, and around the perimeter.
Author:  Mike Collins [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:30 pm ]
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Waddy -it worked so your fine !
I let it dry ovenight -did you?

mc
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:34 pm ]
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Actually, I let mine dry for 24 hours. I covered it with waxed paper, and put a piece of spruce and a weight on top, so I wanted to give it plenty of time to dry.
Author:  Michael.N. [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:10 pm ]
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There's a lot to be said for asymmetry, ask mother nature.
Waddy. I can't work out how flooding it with thinned glue works. You've got side grain in that rosette.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:36 pm ]
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Michael, it soaks down through the cracks and layers, of which there were plenty.. I noticed that there was a complete bed of glue under the piece that I chipped out. There wasn't any in there when I installed the parts. Some of the purflings were already glued together, before installing.
Author:  Mike Collins [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:08 pm ]
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WaddyThomson wrote:
Michael, it soaks down through the cracks and layers, of which there were plenty.. I noticed that there was a complete bed of glue under the piece that I chipped out. There wasn't any in there when I installed the parts. Some of the purflings were already glued together, before installing.


Waddy that is the best explaination of how the flooding works !


Mike ;)
Author:  Dave Fifield [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:34 am ]
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The crispness and fit of this rosette is remarkable Waddy! Excellent stuff!! [clap]

Keep 'em coming!

Dave F.
Author:  Dennis Leahy [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:41 am ]
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Beautiful, Waddy, just beautiful.


Oh, and the rosette looks wonderful too!

Dennis
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:54 am ]
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Thanks guys!
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