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Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:50 pm ]
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I believe that if every person who reads the threads "visits" and doesnt comment should be charged a nickle . If they Comment , its waved . From the vast Number of people who read and dont comment we could probably settle the national debt . laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe


Im starting my First Guitar , I have been Making molds to bend the sides . The basic shape is as follows .
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I havent made all the decisions about what is happening here , I have some beautifull tops and b/s sets I recently purchased . The Bouts Measure 10-1/2" and 14-3/8" Respectively and the body will be 19" long. I have been kicking around with 3-3/4" Body Thickness and setting it up with a under bridge pick up . But havent decided for sure .
Author:  Hesh [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:52 pm ]
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Cool shape James and now that I commented where is my stinkin nickle???????? :D
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:54 pm ]
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Cool where is my nickel :D
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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" Snorts " Hesh if you saw my comment on "discouraged's " thread about you ya might want more than a nickle !! laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe
Author:  Stephen Boone [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:03 pm ]
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No comment.

















Except to say that that is a mighty bold guitar shape!
Author:  Dennis Leahy [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:05 pm ]
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Comment: you're solely counting on the plywood in your bending molds, at the edges of the mold, with no support for the wood between. You may want to rethink this strategy.

Whew, I needed not to lose that $0.05!

Dennis
Author:  Robert Renick [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:18 pm ]
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I love the shape, and my 5 cents. As much as I like it visually, it would seem to be adding to the lower bout in a way that would be less ergonomic without getting too much in sound benefit. What are the body dimensions? Any experienced builders able to explain how the top would move or be restricted from moving with the shape of the lower bout as it is?

Rob
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:26 pm ]
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Dennis Leahy wrote:
Comment: you're solely counting on the plywood in your bending molds, at the edges of the mold, with no support for the wood between. You may want to rethink this strategy.

Whew, I needed not to lose that $0.05!

Dennis



Planning on using filler , Had thought of sandwiching the materal in sheet steel , but no not just counting on plywood edges . Thanks thought for pointing that out .

comfyfoot wrote:
I love the shape, and my 5 cents. As much as I like it visually, it would seem to be adding to the lower bout in a way that would be less ergonomic without getting too much in sound benefit. What are the body dimensions? Any experienced builders able to explain how the top would move or be restricted from moving with the shape of the lower bout as it is?

Rob



Rob , Its 3-3/4" thick " in my mind at this point" ! However you do ask a excellent question . I guess its a matter of finding out . I welcome any thoughts on that . pro or con.

Stephen Boone wrote:
Except to say that that is a mighty bold guitar shape!

Never won the race yelling WOA laughing6-hehe
Author:  Robert Renick [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:36 pm ]
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I was curious about body length and width at the lower bout, as well as waist and upper. It almost looks like a parlor with Cadillac fins on the lower bout.

Rob
Author:  peterm [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:39 pm ]
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Only thing I would comment is the amount of sharp corners on the body.
It will be tricky to join and bind. Off course its very doable but it will add an amount of extra work.
Author:  Dave Rickard [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:44 pm ]
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Author:  Randolph [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:20 pm ]
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Love those jigs and that shape!! Where's my nickle?
Author:  jaguarguy [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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That would make a nice solid body guitar shape!
Author:  Rod True [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:30 pm ]
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You'll never know if I read it or not...
Author:  Hesh [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:33 pm ]
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"angry beaver on steroids , or hesh " :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are right I didn't see that. :lol:

So now you owe me a quarter.... gaah laughing6-hehe
Author:  Andy Birko [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:38 pm ]
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I was going to comment but I don't like being bullied.
Author:  Rene [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:51 pm ]
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Are the sharp corners for hooking on your belt if you want to go strapless?
I like it.

René
Author:  woodsworth [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:54 pm ]
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Just to cover all the lurking i've done
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:19 pm ]
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I do Have plans down the road to make a thin hollowbody electric with this shape . I have already made 1 Mandolin very close to this shape .
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Author:  Tom West [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:20 pm ]
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Regular guitar shapes not hard enough......????? wow7-eyes laughing6-hehe
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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westca wrote:
Regular guitar shapes not hard enough......????? wow7-eyes laughing6-hehe



Just never been one to walk the well worn path . And I have MANY scars and bruises to prove it ! laughing6-hehe
Author:  truckjohn [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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I think it is a great idea... Neat looking pattern... I think it will be a challenge

But.. I wouldn't encourage you to do it as #1.

Here is something to think about for a bit...

Your 1st guitar ends up being a bit of a "Learning Exercise"...

Not only is it "Cabinetry" in the sense of getting joints cut and glued right, parts sanded, inlays installed, and finished properly, and the making of a Guitar Shaped Thing...

It is also a Music Making Thing -- It has to play properly for it to be successful, so there are many things that you can't go fooling with if you want it to play the expected notes on command (Intonation of the strings, placement of the frets, way the neck works, etc.) There is also the difference between an Acoustic and an Electric... Since an Acoustic has to produce it's own "Amplification" -- the soundboard has to be light enough with the bracing scheme all working together to give it a good musical sound... so that it doesn't come out sounding like a $49.99 Rogue.

So there are big benefits of picking something in the "Well Trod Ground" category for #1 -- say a Dread or OOO Steelstring or a Torres or Ramirez Classical... Etc. These are fairly Mature "Production" designs... Fully capable of sounding and playing great if built properly.... and the designs are sufficiently worked out such that they aren't too hard to build if you follow a logical building sequence.

Also.. Most everyone has already tried them out and so can answer all of your questions when you get hung up on something....

Whereas... many folks can theorize about getting something totally original working, but won't be able to answer from direct experience...

Tell us how it comes out.

John
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:59 pm ]
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truckjohn wrote:
I think it is a great idea... Neat looking pattern... I think it will be a challenge

But.. I wouldn't encourage you to do it as #1.

Here is something to think about for a bit...

Your 1st guitar ends up being a bit of a "Learning Exercise"...


Tell us how it comes out.

John


Ist " Guitar " effort .

Have been building mandolins until now. I appreciate your comments , and you are correct . And I may be back here soon going gaah [headinwall] however I am looking forward to the challange .
Author:  MRS [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:00 pm ]
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It's going to cost you an additional 44 cents to mail me that nickle.
Author:  Dave Fifield [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:20 pm ]
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It's going to be a bu99er on your arm over the lower bout, ain't it?

Dave F.
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