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Author:  Phillip Patton [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:13 pm ]
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Howdy folks,
I finished this one up a couple weeks ago. It's actually the first guitar I started, but mid-way through I decided to build a classical first, since the classical seemed easier and simpler to make.

This is kind of out of the ordinary. It's a steel string, but I made it with a neck that's 2-1/8" wide at the nut, hoping that that would help me play fingerstyle more cleanly, and with the 12 fret at the body/neck joint. Also, the body is on the small size. I guess you might call it an OM? Anyway, I have a dreadnought, and it's too big for me to play comfortably; this one fits me just right.

The back and sides are osage orange from my back yard. The neck is curly maple I got off of fleabay, the top is recycled from an old piano soundboard. The fret board is black walnut, which also grew locally. The bridge is ebony. The bindings are walnut.

Any comments welcome.

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Author:  Phillip Patton [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:14 pm ]
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Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:17 pm ]
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nice simplistic approch. I notice a fair gap at the top of the neck and body joint next time out try to floss this in to a good tight fit everywhere.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:35 pm ]
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Looks good! Interesting in it's simplicity! Good work for an early guitar.
Author:  Phillip Patton [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:41 pm ]
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Michael Dale Payne wrote:
nice simplistic approch. I notice a fair gap at the top of the neck and body joint next time out try to floss this in to a good tight fit everywhere.



Thanks!
Yeah, I know it's not perfect, and I did try to close the gap, but it wasn't cooperating... How do you use floss to fix that? :o :mrgreen:
Author:  Darryl Young [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:20 pm ]
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Phillip,

Very nice and very adventurous to build from scratch on your first attempt. I like the osage orange with the walnut......good combo. I would like to hear this guitar with the bridge almost in the middle of the lower bout. Nice figure on the maple as well.
Author:  Phillip Patton [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:19 pm ]
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Darryl Young wrote:
Phillip,

Very nice and very adventurous to build from scratch on your first attempt. I like the osage orange with the walnut......good combo. I would like to hear this guitar with the bridge almost in the middle of the lower bout. Nice figure on the maple as well.



Thanks for the kind words.

I tried to record some sound clips this evening. Tomorrow I'll try to convert them to mp3 and post them. I will say that it sounds noticeably better than my plywood dread. :o :mrgreen:
Author:  bill stewart [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:23 am ]
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I notice you have used a "six in line" tuner set as the trebles are upside down. Was this part of the plan to keep it simple and use up what was available to make do?

Bill S.
Author:  Phillip Patton [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:54 am ]
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bill stewart wrote:
I notice you have used a "six in line" tuner set as the trebles are upside down. Was this part of the plan to keep it simple and use up what was available to make do?

Bill S.



I just used what Grizzly sent me. ;) I THOUGHT I'd ordered a set of 3 right hand and 3 left hand, but apparently not.
So yes, it was simpler to use what I had than to buy more. :mrgreen:
Author:  Barry Daniels [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:08 am ]
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The extra wide bridge and placement of the pins makes for very little string break over angle at the saddle. Adding string ramps would probably make a significant improvement in your tone.
Author:  Edward Taylor [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:07 pm ]
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Looks great Phillip. Whats the plan for #3 or is it already underway? :D
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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Phillip P. wrote:
Michael Dale Payne wrote:
nice simplistic approch. I notice a fair gap at the top of the neck and body joint next time out try to floss this in to a good tight fit everywhere.



Thanks!
Yeah, I know it's not perfect, and I did try to close the gap, but it wasn't cooperating... How do you use floss to fix that? :o :mrgreen:


Flossing is a technique using sand paper to fine fit the neck to the body and proper alignment. My dear friend Hesh put together a fine tutorial on how to do this. The tutorial is for a bolt on neck but the flossing part to fit to the body would be the same no mater what neck joint is used. Here is a link to it.

http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10102&t=15022%22
Author:  Wes Paul [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:36 pm ]
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Very nice! I work part time as a piano repair technician and I always have access to pianos that are 100 years and older.
Many are beyond repair and I have been salvaging as much wood as I can from them. Yesterday I scored a little stash of 120 year old spruce and rosewood from an old square grand! Great minds think alike!
Author:  John Lewis [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:52 pm ]
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I love it - it's got some nice mojo going on. The tuners fit with the whole vibe of the guitar and I like the top too. It's a shame most buyers of high end acoustics demand perfectly white tops - I prefer some color like this one. Keep building them. :D
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