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| Author: | LanceK [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | This eBay listing is just hallarious |
IT'S AUCTION FOR 2 GUITAR SETS BRAZILIAN ROSEWOOD WITH MAGIC DRAWINGS, THIS WOOD IS THE DREAM OF ALL LUTHIERS RARE VERY RARE OF FINDING FOR YOU BUILD THE GUITAR OF YOUR DREAMS, UNEQUALED COLOR, UNEQUALED TAPTONE, UNEQUALED QUALITY, THE SECOND SET WOOD WAS SAWED OF OLD BIG BLOCK WITH 20 INCH OF WIDTH. Sounds SO convincing!  Ya think the lister even knows what "Taptone" is? |
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| Author: | Jon L. Nixon [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Actually, for what passes for BRW these days, it is not so bad. One of the side sets is actually quite nice. Of course, there is no telling what species it actually is, and this person dosen't accept returns. I don't get the "magic drawings" part, though. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=230398460874&Category=47067&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2#ht_652wt_1167 |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:30 am ] |
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Gee the Lance, Perhaps, just maybe, kinda possible, that the dude be for real and this is the too good to be true story that really is for real...I mean how about a leap of blind faith, you know extending the listing dude the benifit of the doubt and all that. But then you know, knowing how hard good BRW is to get hands on, will bring out the worst of us...thinkgs like, like well like you post...a brillinat stratagy (my hats off to you) yes a brilliant stratagy, a smoke screen, a diversion to prevent all the rest of us from bidding, just so that you can scoop them up at a low ball price....Naw..me just hallucinating again...Lance woodent do that now would he? Wood you? Lance? Hellow Lance, you there?  blessings the Padma |
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| Author: | Haans [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
I would suppose the guy doesn't speak english so well, eh? Actually I bought a couple of sets from him, and the stuff I got was old and had a spectacular tap. Rang like a bell. Dry as a bone. To be forwarned though, the stuff comes from Brazil. It's stained black and listed as a different species... 
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| Author: | LanceK [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
the Padma wrote: Gee the Lance, Perhaps, just maybe, kinda possible, that the dude be for real and this is the too good to be true story that really is for real...I mean how about a leap of blind faith, you know extending the listing dude the benifit of the doubt and all that. But then you know, knowing how hard good BRW is to get hands on, will bring out the worst of us...thinkgs like, like well like you post...a brillinat stratagy (my hats off to you) yes a brilliant stratagy, a smoke screen, a diversion to prevent all the rest of us from bidding, just so that you can scoop them up at a low ball price....Naw..me just hallucinating again...Lance woodent do that now would he? Wood you? Lance? Hellow Lance, you there? blessings the Padma Funny but not the case. Actually good legal brw is not to hard to get any more. I have no agenda, just thought it was funny 
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| Author: | the Padma [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Lance Kragenbrink wrote: Funny but not the case. Actually good legal brw is not to hard to get any more. I have no agenda, just thought it was funny Oh ya, no agenda, thats what they all say! And re: good legal brew, ya is true, it can be had at any liquer store. But now if ya want the really good stuff, ya know, the 'om brewed stuff that puts a fire in yer gut, lasts 3 days kinda stuff...well just send Todd Stock a PM askin about his ummm.... "Snake Skin Oil" for your ummm fret boards. He'll know what you talking about. No agenda eh Lance, Right! Blessings the Padma |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
That second set is quite figured, what ever it is. But a "no returns" policy is stupid and I would never buy from someone that had such a policy. Can't believe he has a 100% rating. Mike |
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| Author: | Mike_P [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:18 pm ] |
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he's operated under different names on ebay and while his current rating is 100%, in reality it isn't if you take into account past actions that are now off the boards.... his packaging is atrocious |
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| Author: | Stephen Faulk [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
It looks more like Caviuna or something. |
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| Author: | PaulK [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
I sent him a message asking if it was Dalbergia nigra, never did get a reply. I doubt that it is. Paul |
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| Author: | Jon L. Nixon [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
At ASIA this spring Larry Nichols (the inlay guy) had a huge stack of jumbo AAA grade BRW at $900-$1000 a pop. Several other vendors had a good selection also.. The AA stuff was in the $700 range. There was a post a while ago about someone buying EBay BRW and it arrived smelling like diesel fuel....buyer beware. 
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| Author: | Alan [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
I want some of those magic drawings! I'm sure they are better than my regular drawings. Actually, I bought a set from him and what I got wasn't what he had pictured in the listing. He kept telling me he would send the right set until it was too late for me to provide negative feedback (about 3 months, I believe), then quit responding all together. That's one reason he has 100%. |
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| Author: | Burton LeGeyt [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
I inquired about picking it up in "Sutton, MA" since I was concerned he "might" be shipping it completely illegally from Brazil. His response was, "but how will I recover my shipping cost if you pick it up?" I didn't have a good answer for him. |
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| Author: | Zach Ehley [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
The response is that he will have no shipping cost. I believe he meant his "handling" cost. |
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| Author: | Jody [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
That guy has been selling wood for along time on ebay... he was shut down a year or so ago for awhile,when the big "rosewood bust " went down, now he is back, its trunkwood "fer sher", me thinks his "english" is questionable ( or limited), hence the barely fathomable remarks. Jody |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Why does he not mention the paperwork that goes along with BRR? Mike |
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| Author: | Haans [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Because it is stained black and goes through customs as another species. Mine was real BRW, I ran it through the sander to get the stain off and the whole shop smelled like Rio. Don't know about this stuff... Looks like he's sold it all or tossed off ebay again. |
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| Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
I've bought more than 20 sets of Brazilian from this guy and I can assure you that it is, in fact, the real deal. The stuff that I've received from him has all been very nice and equal to if not better than everything I've received from the better known and more commonly used wood vendors who are selling Brazilian Rosewood. I watch for his listings and always contact him. I have a nice pile of Brazilian Rosewood in my shop right now and am on hold with my wood purchases for a while or i would have pushed the final bid quite a bit higher on these two sets. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Wow! You have some folks claiming he is a crook and some reputable folks claiming he is the real deal. How is one supposed to discern the truth here? Mike |
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| Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Mike, You'd have to actually buy something from him, get it in hand to have a look and to be able to determine whether it's what he represented it to be. Every set of Brazilian Rosewood that I've bought from this guy has been of very good quality. I don't think that he is completely aware of the demand for or value of it in the acoustic guitar community. What I've gotten from him has been several times better than anything I've gotten from anyone else at the same prices. I've paid as much as $2000.00 for sets of great old growth and as little as $100.00 for sets of less desirable stuff, but still of good quality. He's had some sets posted that I could easily and quickly see that I wasn't interested in, but when I see the stuff I want, I jump on and make sure that I end up with it. Give him a try if you're interested in whether or not his stuff is real or good or worth the purchase price. Better yet, Forget about him and buy your sets from the bigger vendors while I continue to grab these sets at the very low prices that he gets for them. I've never received anything with an odd color or odor, just good wood wrapped considerately and carefully and packed with as much care as any other vendor provides and more than some....and I buy wood from a lot of different vendors. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
He's shipping it as a different species? Something ain't right there folks. |
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| Author: | Haans [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
He's avoiding the Cites paperwork. He did send me some photos of some beams that must have been 12 x 12. It's BRW all right...but it's illegal to sell it that way. |
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| Author: | Alan [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Michael.N. wrote: He's shipping it as a different species? Something ain't right there folks. From some of the comments, it appears he was selling under another name and was shut down by eBay once. EBay is concerned about what they sell...when Customs or some other legal authorities start investigating. Now it appears that he is again selling BRW with no paperwork. I doubt that all of the BRW he is selling came from sawing up is grandma's dining table, so I have my doubts about it being totally legit. However, he's probably a good source if one isn't concerned with the buying smuggled wood. |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
Oh I knew why he was doing that Haans. Fortunately I don't feel the need to use BRW and even if I did I don't think I'd be buying illegal stuff. Isn't it true that a finished Guitar in BRW also needs documentaion if it crosses a border? |
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| Author: | Haans [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This eBay listing is just hallarious |
A good rule of thumb is that unless you have Cites paperwork BRW guitars don't leave the country they are in. Far as I understand it they can be taken away from you. |
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