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Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
I have tried fingers, brushes, syringes. What I would like to find is a small roller based applicator, something with rubber roller? I have seen some ideas, but they are too big. This would be primarily for putting glue on kerfed bindings.

Thanks,

Mike
Author:  Kent Chasson [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
I use a piece of foam, like the kind on a foam brush, to apply glue to kerfed linings. Dab it on instead of brushing to keep from packing the kerfs.
Author:  woody b [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
I just use a small (2 ounce) bottle with a very small hole in the tip. I can spread a nice bead quickly, and without making a mess. I use HHG so speed of application is necessary, and cleanup is tough. Neatness is a must too. You want the hole in the tip of the spout to be small enough glue doesn't run out when you hold the bottle upside down, but you don't have to squeeze very hard to get some out. I've tried brushes and all kinds of stuff but this works best for me.
Author:  Colin S [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Mike are you talking abut the Titebond/LMI white type of glue? If so, have you seen the Taylor guitars videos 'Factory Fridays', available on their website? Look at the roller system they use for gluing braces, the type of roller they used to use for wetting envelope flaps.

Try this link and click on Factory Fridays, the bracing video is on the second page of videos:

http://www.taylorguitars.com/see-hear/default.aspx

Colin
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Colin, that was interesting. I might try to find one of those.

But I am looking for something to speed up glueing of kerfed lining without getting much glue in the kerfs. I am talking about the stage where one is gluing the top or back to the sides. I find this task tricky at best. I have seen a roller on a number of supply sites (Woodcraft, etc) but the roller looks like hard plastic. Somewhat soft and permeable rubber seems more suited to the task, a notch or two above foam.

Thanks,

Mike
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
These are OVER the top expensive, but the idea is right, just a smaller version?

http://www.veneersystems.com/index.php/ ... gory/id/4/

Maybe I will just buy the wheels and go from there.

This might work: http://www.tools-plus.com/virutex-jr-3.html

Mike
Author:  Jeff Highland [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Small cheap foam paint roller works fine, just make sure you wash it out.
I have used it for this liners to back/ top application.
Author:  Colin S [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Mike I use one of these sometimes, is this the sort of thing you are looking for? It is a reservoir for the glue with a nozzle that feeds the glue to the roller, (I use it when making laminated bindings) as you can see they are very cheap, at only £2.75.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-Glue-Bottles-22118.htm

They also do an upmarket version with interchangable brass nozzles at £12.75.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-GlueMaster-32706.htm

If this would do and you can't them in the US let me know and I'll grt one and send it over.

Colin
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Filippo, thanks. [:Y:] Every time I mention kerfed linings, I try to get that right. I did not mean bindings. I like your idea for their initial gluing.

Collin. Yes! I just ordered two like the first one. Is the roller hard plastic or softer rubber? These are the ones I was reticent about ordering (hard plastic roller??), but for $3.80 US I can at least try them. Seems to me Woodcraft had them at twice that price. I found mine on Amazon under Robert Larson Woodworking.

As for the last one, I have never seen that in the US market. I will look for it, it looks like the best solution.

Mike

Edit: I found that second one here for $9.99! http://www.vandykes.com/product/206511/glue-master-set
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Most wood craft stores have glue roller aplicators. the are designed almost exsplisitly for PVA glues the problem is the rollers tend to be 2-3" wide and for what we do that would mean a lot of drips to clean up you see at some point the weight of the glue overcomes its surface tention grip on the roller and if the part is mot as wide as the applicator you get a dripping mess. ( I'm speaking of hand held applicators) now stationary applicators where you drag the part across the wheel and the glue fall back into a container like what Taylor uses makes good sence.
Author:  Colin S [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Mark, mine are a hard rubber roller, they allow a nice thin even glue application. Glad you're sorted, but if I can be of any help, let me know.

Colin
Author:  Cocephus [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Hey, Robbie!
You better mention tool patent #BR549. 8-)
Coe
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
If you look at the GlueMaster that Colin pointed out, even though the roller is wide, the glue goes on in a small center section. The other kind (like Woodcraft, etc) looks a little less controllable. Also, I bet one could notch these in a way to make transfer to the whole roller difficult. Too me, the GlueMaster looks to be the most controllable. We will see, I ordered one.

Now, I would love to find one like Taylor uses. That should not be too difficult. Heck, one could convert a tape dispensor for that.

Mike
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
I have searched high and low. Yet, no find on the glue applicator that Taylor uses. They must have gone extinct after the last asteroid hit planet Earth.

Mike
Author:  Bob Shanklin [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Mike,

Try looking here, http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... 42967&ap=1

Bob
Author:  dmills [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
3/4" wide rubber wheel er.... glue roller. $3 at the local hardware store.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
Doug,

Bravo! bliss I heard it put this way once: "If necessity is the mother of invention, then frustration is the father of progress".

I think they offer a "tub-o-lard" around here for correct and ingenious answers. Yours wins. [:Y:]

Lance, Brock, please send Doug the prize, I will pay for it. That was so smart. Really.

Thank you,

Mike

PS: If perchance some read this wrong, I am dead serious. That right there was a smart idea. I will add to that an aluminum roller to thin the glue layer.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for a Water Based Glue Applicator
http://www.toolking.com/bighorn_19045.aspx

This is the one I got. Turns out, it is a little longer than a dollar bill. Really well made. All brass glue tips.

I am not sure you can get it for $9.99 anymore...

Mike
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