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Author: | meddlingfool [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | How many builds did it take you? |
Just curious, how many builds did you make until you really started to hone in on the sound you were after, and were consistantly able to get the results you intended? ![]() |
Author: | Alain Moisan [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
'bout 10 for the sound. 25 for the fit and finish (and still counting, to a certain extent...) |
Author: | woody b [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
I built a couple, a slope D, and a 000 12 fret and didn't bind the top. I kept removing the tops and.....messing until. 1. I got the tone I was after. 2. Until I got a fair understanding of how to shape the tone. |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
I have only built 5 guitars and am very happy with the sound of the last 2 and get really good comments from players on the finish and sound. I have a way to go as far as I am concerned with fit and finish as I am a bit too fussy, but they all look good to the eyes of others. Fred |
Author: | jackwilliams [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
I'd say 15 to 18 guitars , but then my wife ( and my first wife) both say I'm a slow learner. jack |
Author: | Corky Long [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
Completing #5 and I'm not close yet, in either category!! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Doug Powdrell [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
Completed 19 steel strings....friends and family seem to think they're 'awesome' , but us builders know otherwise. Some sound better than others, some finish out better than others....part of the handbuilt process for me....have not seen the 'checkered flag' on perfect tone and perfect fit and finish.....that's what keeps me going, I guess. |
Author: | the Padma [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
meddlingfool wrote: ..how many builds did you make until you really started to hone in on the sound you were after, and were consistantly able to get the results you intended? Umm yo, Fool... Well me no build from a preconcived idea or notion of " sound me after or intended results." That approch and attatude to building reduces it down to "Yes Dr. we would like our baby boy to be a blond eyed, blue haired, genius with a dimple on his chin" ![]() Sorry, dude, the thought of building to demand, or to order, (although it may pay the bills) or the thought of knocking out repros smacks of therapy assembly line work to me or like the hours waisted meditating for enlightenment in the monastery....and well me the Padma "will not be assimilated" If you are trying to find out how long it took me to feel confident with my luthier skills....well is like this.... I don't got any "luthier skills" Me basicaly been builden em by the seat of me pants since Kennedy was in office... and me still learning a thing or two on these forums. Dude ...its the journey through life, not the destination. Now, Fool, My question to you is....When you gonna stop asking questions, and start building? blessings the Padma |
Author: | Mike Collins [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
My level of workmanship is 95 %-I always find something I'd like to have done better. Tone-sound ;is another matter since I do not make copies of famous makers or myself-My clients want a guitar that is made for their ears . So i listen to them-write down every detail they tell me and make a guitar for them & me-If i made every guitar just to my liking I'd only sell a few. I do not thing any maker is totaly happy all the time with every guitar they make. It's a learning process that takes time & patience. If your making guitars only for yourself -keep notes of thicknesses and such so you can make changes where neccessary that will help with the next builds. I know this is simple advise but ;it works. Mike ![]() |
Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
I'm just finishing #'s 38 and 39. Not there yet, I'll check back when I'm at 100 if I live that long but it'll probably be the same answer. To paraphrase Dory in "Finding Nemo" -- Just keep building just keep building just keep building. Good Luck TJK |
Author: | Greg [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
21 for the sound. Finally getting some nice toines. Still working on the construction and carpentry. |
Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
Padma, I hope I never stop asking questions. It would be a sad day if I thought I had it all figured out! And I build around 70 hours a week, 35 hours for someone else and however many I can coax out of my poor old body for myself and I really love almost all of them. Except buffing, I don't like that. At all. I just finished numbers 41 and 42, they both turned out great, but neither of them did precisely what I expected and that is really the purpose of this thread, to get a general idea of how long it has taken some people to be able to confidently control the results. I like your approach to your projects as well, but I'm trying to get my way rolling. Maybe I'll give you a jingle next time I'm in the Koots, we'll have a show and tell in the Oso Negro patio! Cheers! |
Author: | the Padma [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
meddlingfool wrote: Maybe I'll give you a jingle next time I'm in the Koots, we'll have a show and tell in the Oso Negro patio! Cheers! Ok Yer on... by the way...my applogies, for some reason or other me took it into me head that you were a newbe and had never built befor. Sorry. blessings the Padma |
Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
No worries, it's all in good fun! |
Author: | bluescreek [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
After I built 14 my first year then I took some formal training. Once I learned from a master I dialed in the tone pretty fast . I would say in honesty , 25 to get it right. I suggest you keep a building log and note every change . Don't make a lot of changed but do it small increments so you know what each change did. Fit and finish I had pretty quick as I was exposed to wood working most of my life and was familiar with nitro and its processes. I am over 100 and still learning . Each one is a bit different and that is what keeps me coming back for more. |
Author: | Mike Lindstrom [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many builds did it take you? |
I thought I was awesome after my first one! So I guess I'm just a natural. ![]() My second one was way more awesomer ![]() So perhaps my initial assessment was premature and lacking a valid frame of reference. Mike |
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