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Author: | Corky Long [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
I've been using dovetail joints on my previous 5 steel string builds and frankly, am getting a bit cranky about my inability to make a joint that is acceptably tight without at least two "reshims" and long sanding sessions. I also am having trouble with neck angle (as well as relief which is increasing over time (poor truss rod installation may be an issue too) after the guitar has had strings on it for a couple of years. I suspect poor execution on an acceptable dovetail, as well as other possibilities. So.... while I know that a well executed dovetail is good enough for Martins that have sounded pretty good ![]() For those of you building for a living, or who would consider yourself "experienced" - e.g. 50+ builds, what neck joint do you use, and why? Thanks! |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
Mortise and tenon bolt-on with bolt-on FB extention because it as strong as a dovetail joint, simpler to fit and adjust and less intrusive to perform a neck reset if needed later down the road. I suspect most proffessional lutheriers have moved to M&T joints for the reasons mentioned many years ago. Please notice I said most. yest there ar plenty of pro luthiers still using dovetail joint and they are fine joints. |
Author: | Tom West [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
Mortise and tenon is SO much easier in my opinion and just as good tone wise ,also in my opinion. |
Author: | bluescreek [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
I am a traditionalist . Dovetails , not because they are better , but they show a high skill level. |
Author: | Robbie_McD [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
Have a look here:http://www.cumpiano.com/Home/Articles/Special%20interest/headblock.html |
Author: | David Newton [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
I was surprised last night, browsing the GAL site, that a guitar school is teaching students to build steel strings with a classical spanish foot. Odd, in this day. |
Author: | bluescreek [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
That isn't what the add said , and it showed the Spanish headstock. Look at the ad again and you will see the head plate joint. |
Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Experienced Luthiers - What neck joint for steel strings?? |
You can browse through the 100 or more threads on this very topic to find as many opinions as you want. The joints offer equal tone quality, equal integrity and longevity. Pick one and use it or use both like many of us do. A dovetail joint takes a little more time and effort to learn to execute well, but both reflect a great level of skill when executed properly. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
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