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| Author: | ayavner [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | stain for a neck? |
Hey all - Building an OM with a light mahogany neck and grenadillo/spruce for back/sides and top. Grenadillo is somewhat rose-woody. i want to stain the neck a bit darker so it doesn't stand out as much, but can't stomach the thought of springing $17.50 for a little bottle of stain concentrate just to use a few drops. Can anyone recommend something off the shelf I could use that would go on easily and be compatible with a nitro finish? Bonus points if it can also be mixed with waterbase pore filler... thanks, adam |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
Odds ar you would need a combination of more than on stain color to achive the tint you realy want. LMI has a good MEK baseddey at $6 a 2oz bottle. It is nasty stuff to work with so wear PPE. Stewmacs translucent stain is good stuff and safer than MEK based stain. Powered aniline dye is a bit cheaper but requires pre desolving. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
Some people use that oxidizing stuff. I can't remember the chemical. It turns HOG to a nice dark brown. Or you could just seal it with some Brown Shellac. |
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| Author: | ayavner [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
Do you mean vinegar with a steel wool pad dissolved in it? I have tried that with oak before and it dyes it almost black. Might be worth testing on a scrap to see... |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
i think he is refering to potasiumcloride to oxidize the mahogany |
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| Author: | John Hale [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
From a thread I posted ages ago bluescreek wrote: I use CA to fill and as for necks , if you want to get a good match to the rosewood , I use red mahogany stain first followed by Dark brown Mahogany stain , then use a blackened filler. I will go to 320 grit to stain and fill . If the stain doesn't work even I will use 320 grit sandpaper and sand stain to even the color. I don't use water stains but have used aniline dyes In another place the filler is described as dark walnut grain filler Never done this but will try an my next rosewood guitar |
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| Author: | Glen H [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
Potassium Dichromate. It does darken mahogany nicely. |
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| Author: | ayavner [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
where would i get that? |
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| Author: | runamuck [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
You could get a small tube of raw umber in an artist oil and thin it down to whatever shade you want. Let it dry though for a couple days before you seal it with lacquer. Jim McCarthy |
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| Author: | Tim L [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: stain for a neck? |
I use Potassium Dichromate. Easy to change the dilution strength with water. The color is a bit reddish and if you want darker go over it again. Although I have never used it, I hear Potassium permagnate works well and is a bit more on the brown side. Both are oxidizers and both are nasty to work with, so wear good gloves and ventilation. The dichromate was given to me by a local builder and the permagnate is used to treat well water. Good luck |
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