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Author:  jordan aceto [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:49 am ]
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I don't own any dedicated scraping planes, but i often flip the blade of a bevel down plane upside down to achieve a high angle for use as a scraping plane, it works great, and its free. This leaves the mouth a mile wide but it does not seem to matter when taking a scraping cut, the blade could easily be shimmed from the back, or the frog moved forward to tighten up the mouth if desired.
Filippo Morelli wrote:
How much do you use them? On what woods? For what operation

Mostly for roughing in the radius of fingerboards, it works well for ebony or any wood that doesn't like a low angle.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:03 am ]
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I have one of the old Stanly #12 Cabinet Scrapers, and have found it very useful in difficult woods,
Author:  JSDenvir [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:18 am ]
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I quite like the L-N 85, probably because it offers fewer options. I found I really struggled with changing the pitch of the blade on other scraper planes, combined with how extreme a hook you put on the blade. Too many variables for me.

With the 85, you just fire it up and go. I haven't found anything yet that it won't scrape.

Steve
Author:  Darrel Friesen [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:36 am ]
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I have the Lee Valley one Filippo. It works great for smoothing gnarly woods like highly figured quilt or flame maple. I have nothing else to compare it to, but it sure saves the fingers and leaves a smooth, flat surface.
Author:  Edward Taylor [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:39 am ]
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I have heard a really good review about the Lee Valley Scraper Fillipo. I am sure to get one once the budget allows it.
Author:  John Platko [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:06 am ]
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I've had a 212 for a long time. It's a love hate relationship. When a piece of wood frustrates my standard planing techniques I give the 212 another chance. It usually starts out great and I say to myself, "why don't you use this more often", Then something goes wrong and somehow or other I gouge the wood, at which point I put it back on the shelf, till next time. Out comes the card scraper.

The video was hard to watch after three cups of coffee but I learned a few things and I'm going to try again. Thanks.

John
Author:  Tom West [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:09 am ]
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Have a Stanley cabinet scraper,think it's #80,with handles similar to a spoke shave.Used that before going to a thickness sander.The sander made life much more enjoyable.
Author:  TonyKarol [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:09 pm ]
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IIRC, LV makes a couple different scraper planes .. I have the smaller, newer one .. a student gave it to me as a gift .... its about the size of a block plane, and does a great job. i use it alot to flatten the backs of FBs prior to gluing to the neck blamk .. great surface.
Author:  Frei [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:31 pm ]
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He did not talk about how you may want to round the edges a bit. I have the 85 ready to go, but havent used it yet. I did use one of the small bronze ones though, with a hook. It worked ok, but I wanted something easier on the hands so I traded out for the 85, glad I saw the video, I was going to hook that blade, but may just try a bevel.

I was also thinking you could use a standard plane backwards, but I did not want to bevel the blade to try it out. You may want to try it as described above, just revers the blade and put a real good secondary bev on it. You can find these on ebay a little cheaper also, usually in near new condition.

I made a simple scraper plane out of a cedar block and small stanley blade, the blade is at the front of an angled piece of wood. With more effort that could work also, it just needs a front part, but adjusting the blade is the issue. It doesnt; really work as is, as a 'bull nose scraper plane'. But maybe I give up too soon?

There is also the stanley # 80 pull type scraper, they run about $20 on ebay. Looks like a spokeshaver, but has a blade/scraper and flat working surface.
Author:  Steve Brown [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:35 pm ]
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I have the LN and have never used it for guitar work. The thing that I actually use the most is a scraper made from single edge razor blade. I keep a 100 pack of the blades. I just roll over the edge with a burnishing tool and use it till it gets dull. That when I discard and start over. Very cheap, fast and very sharp and easy to use.

Steve Brown
Author:  Rick Davis [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:13 pm ]
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I have a Lee-Neilsen 212 scraper plane in bronze, perfect condition. It's a good tool, beautifully made, but doesn't fit my building style. First $100 gets it.
Author:  Pat Foster [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:25 pm ]
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I've used a Union copy of the Stanley #12 scraper, with a Hock iron. It worked very well for me, but was taking a toll on my shoulders. Then, I found a Performax 10-20 for an irresistible price and now the scraper plane gathers dust. My shoulders are much happier.

Pat
Author:  MRS [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:41 pm ]
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I just use a sandvik hand sraper i have had for years. I use to own a old stanley no 80 scraper that i ebayed a few years ago. I didn't care for it to much. i just never felt the need for a scraper plane.
Author:  Frei [ Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:24 pm ]
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Ok, tried the 85 today, nice and smooth, but only angled, no secondary bevel. Edges need to be rounded, and I think the tooth blade would be really nice with this.
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