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Author:  Donought [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Early D-1/D-2 Question
Did the earliest examples use bar-frets?

An unrelated question: what kind of finish did Martin utilize before they switched to nitro?

Thank you!

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Author:  Donought [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
I found out about the second question, which is french polish and shellac [:Y:]
Author:  jackwilliams [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
Your quote:"I found out about the second question, which is french polish and shellac "

I'm suprised, I figured they (CFMartin) used brush applied varnish.
regards,
jack
Author:  Donought [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
jackwilliams wrote:
Your quote:"I found out about the second question, which is french polish and shellac "

I'm suprised, I figured they (CFMartin) used brush applied varnish.
regards,
jack


I'm kinda' surprised, too idunno
Author:  Kevin Gallagher [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
Martin has never French polished guitars. Shellac, yes, but no to the French polish.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars
Author:  Donought [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
Kevin Gallagher wrote:
Martin has never French polished guitars. Shellac, yes, but no to the French polish.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars


I'm not saying you're wrong.

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/martin.html

• pre-1900: French polish.
• 1900: Thin shellac.
• 1919: Semi-gloss shellac.
• 1923: High-gloss shellac.
• 1926 (some models), 1929 (most models): Clear nitrocellulose lacquer. Style 18 models fully switched over to nitro cellulose lacquer by 1929. The transition from shellac to lacquer started in 1926 with O-17H.
• 1930: All styles have nitrocellulose lacquer finish.
Author:  David Newton [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
A lot of folks have an opinion, even educated opinions about this, but the only ones who know for a fact, are dead.
Same with Gibson's early finish, especially the pre-Loar & Loar-era mandolins.
No one knows for sure what the exact formula is.
Author:  bluescreek [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early D-1/D-2 Question
Martin did in fact use a french polish on pre 1900's . Thin Shellac was used till the 20's . A satin offering was available from 1919 to 1922 but was just a dulled shellac finish. In 1923 the satin was a rubbed varnish over the shellac. The First lacquer finishes started in 1926. These are noted in Martins history and in the plants Archives.
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