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| Author: | Kennyboy [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | super soft |
Without sounding too stunned, what is super soft , and where can it be purchased |
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| Author: | Christian Schmid [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
pretty much all answers can be found here: http://www.veneersupplies.com/product_info.php?products_id=616 I guess you can buy it anywhere you can buy veneer...maybe even in your local Home Depot Christian |
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| Author: | Kennyboy [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Thanx Christian for the info , can't believe I didn't know about this stuff, haven't seen it in...ha ha guess I've been building too long in the dungeon, |
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| Author: | mateo4x4 [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Question...what is the thickest piece anyone has successfully used this on? Would it be useful for doing laminated sides? -Matthew |
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| Author: | Christian Schmid [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Hi Matthew, now this is only a very vague memory on my part, and I may very well be wrong, but I think classical builders in the Australian/Smallman tradition use 5 or 7 sheets of high-quality veneer for their sides, and I think I remember, that some don't use side benders but just bend the veneers (probably with Super Soft) and laminate them in the mold. Again, this is a vague memory, so please don't take it as a fact... I have no idea whether it would work with thicker pieces... Christian |
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| Author: | Kennyboy [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Good question...what about using it on sides that are thicknessed, to 90-95 thou, like Bubinga ? do you have to saturate the wood to soften the sides throughly? Never had any real problems bending, just interested in this wood softener stuff. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
I've used it on many difficult sides @ .090" and never broke one in 3 years. Spray it on lightly. Allow to sit for 24 hours. Bend as normal using minimal water. I heat Bubinga to 300*. Good luck! |
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| Author: | Kennyboy [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
cool...will have to try it...thanx for the info J.J. |
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| Author: | Ken Mitchell [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Would this stuff help if you're bending sides with a heating iron? |
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| Author: | Ken Mitchell [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Would this stuff help if you're bending sides with a heating iron? |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Not sure Ken, but it probably would help...others may have better info on hand bending. I've only ever used it on the Fox bender. |
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| Author: | JRessler [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Be careful if you are using SS on maple. It will stain maple |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
I have only used it on Australian Lace Wood, but it worked fine on a hand bender. I did as JJ said. Spray it on, let it dry, overnight, spritz and bend. |
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| Author: | George Thomas [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
The SS supplier says a spritz on both sides then dry overnight. This is the instruction for a veneer. I am wondering if more than a light spritz would be needed to fully penetrate a side in the .085 to .095 thickness range. I have tried it both ways and seem to have good results with more but this could just be euphoric recall. |
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| Author: | peterm [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Good stuff for figures woods but it will bleach Koa. Beware. |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: super soft |
Yes, it does take the color out of some woods. I used it on pau ferro binding. I soaked it in supersoft, dried it then bent. Those pieces never again matched the backstrip I had cut from the same stock. |
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