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| Author: | Ricardo [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
Any ideas on how I can get started on a project like this? |
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| Author: | Ken McKay [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
I would get the Benedetto book first off, then draw a set of plans or have some drawn for you by copying an existing 175. They have laminated top, back and sides. You can learn to make these or purchse them already made. |
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| Author: | Ricardo [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
Ken, I have the Benedetto book and a friend has offered his es 175 for tracing and measurements. I'll probably carve the front and back. Thanks |
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| Author: | enalnitram [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
I'm in a similar situation. I'd like to build something like an es-250 or es-150 some day, but I don't know where to go beyond where I'm at. I also have the benedetto book. I've found some laminated back and sides. I'd like to carve the top and make a neck. how do you work off a pre-existing guitar? you can trace the shapes, but what about getting the bracing to be accurately placed, etc? where do you purchase already made plans? |
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| Author: | Ricardo [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
I found Frank Ford's site had some pictures of the inside of the 175 so I could see the bracing. Also join the Gibson forum for info on specific guitars. Regarding your laminated back who is your source? I've found only 17" laminated backs at Stewmac and I'll need 16" so I may have to carve the back. |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
This question has been floated a few times, so my assuption is there's probably not a specific building plan for a 175. But I've also heard it said more than once that it shares it's shape with one or more other models. ("That same "16-inch" body has since been used on the L-5, L-7, L-10, L-12, L-47, L-48, L-50, L-75, ES-150, ES-175, J-185, J-180, Everly Brothers, J-200 Jr, J-2000, Starburst Elite."....... a quote from the MIMF archive). Franks Fords site shows basically a parallel braced archtop. (It shows the braces as kerfed!!!!.... I wouldn't do that if it was me.) I think ACME sells lam'd plates that, if I remember, work on 16", but check. My take is that you're building a parallel braced archtop right out of Benedetto's book. The Ford site has a few good "full front" shots of the 175. Since you know the 175 body parameters (16" lower, 20.5" length), draw a box that size and cut/paste an exactly cropped image of the body so it fits that box exactly. (You can then make templates for body, f-holes, whatever) |
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| Author: | SteveCourtright [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
Dan at ACME is a great guy and can certainly help you out. I bought some plates and sides for a Benedetto shape archtop and they are really nice quality. Also, less known is Stephen Holst at http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/laminatedplates.htm The Holst plates are for a 16" if I recall correctly and look pretty nice. |
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| Author: | enalnitram [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
Ricardo wrote: Regarding your laminated back who is your source? I've found only 17" laminated backs at Stewmac and I'll need 16" so I may have to carve the back. I don't have one yet. Acme is the guy I have heard of that sells them. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeouc4e/acme ... /id26.html http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeouc4e/acme ... /id10.html I don't know if he has 16". |
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| Author: | Ricardo [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need plan for ES-175 type guitar |
Steve, Hoists product looks real good! What did you do for sides? |
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