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 Post subject: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:20 am 
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Without sounding too stunned, what is super soft , and where can it be purchased


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 Post subject: Re: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:26 am 
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pretty much all answers can be found here:

http://www.veneersupplies.com/product_info.php?products_id=616

I guess you can buy it anywhere you can buy veneer...maybe even in your local Home Depot

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:38 am 
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Thanx Christian for the info , can't believe I didn't know about this stuff, haven't seen it in...ha ha guess I've been building too long in the dungeon,


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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Question...what is the thickest piece anyone has successfully used this on? Would it be useful for doing laminated sides?

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:09 pm 
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Hi Matthew,

now this is only a very vague memory on my part, and I may very well be wrong, but I think classical builders in the Australian/Smallman tradition use 5 or 7 sheets of high-quality veneer for their sides, and I think I remember, that some don't use side benders but just bend the veneers (probably with Super Soft) and laminate them in the mold.
Again, this is a vague memory, so please don't take it as a fact...
I have no idea whether it would work with thicker pieces...

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:12 pm 
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Good question...what about using it on sides that are thicknessed, to 90-95 thou, like Bubinga ? do you have to saturate the wood to soften the sides throughly? Never had any real problems bending, just interested in this wood softener stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: super soft
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:36 pm 
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I've used it on many difficult sides @ .090" and never broke one in 3 years.

Spray it on lightly. Allow to sit for 24 hours. Bend as normal using minimal water. I heat Bubinga to 300*.

Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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cool...will have to try it...thanx for the info J.J.


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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Would this stuff help if you're bending sides with a heating iron?

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Would this stuff help if you're bending sides with a heating iron?

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Not sure Ken, but it probably would help...others may have better info on hand bending. I've only ever used it on the Fox bender.

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Be careful if you are using SS on maple. It will stain maple

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I have only used it on Australian Lace Wood, but it worked fine on a hand bender. I did as JJ said. Spray it on, let it dry, overnight, spritz and bend.

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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The SS supplier says a spritz on both sides then dry overnight. This is the instruction for a veneer. I am wondering if more than a light spritz would be needed to fully penetrate a side in the .085 to .095 thickness range. I have tried it both ways and seem to have good results with more but this could just be euphoric recall.

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Good stuff for figures woods but it will bleach Koa. Beware.

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 Post subject: Re: super soft
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Yes, it does take the color out of some woods. I used it on pau ferro binding. I soaked it in supersoft, dried it then bent. Those pieces never again matched the backstrip I had cut from the same stock.

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