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Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:14 pm ]
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I came across a link to this video and thought that it needed to be passed on. Though it is not directly Guitar building it certainly will eventually affect us.
http://www.hitman-productions.com/works/15_musicwoodX.html

Fred
Author:  Tom West [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:54 pm ]
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THANKS Fred: This needs to be seen by all of us to get a grasp on what is happening. The guitar industry takes so little of this wood ,and some is even rescued from cut timber marked for such lowly purposes as pulpwood.Humans seem to not notice the problems until it is to late.Not sure what the story is here in Canada but no doubt it is the same.Let's hope every one acts responsible and an on going supply can be assured for every one. Thanks again...! Tom.
Author:  npalen [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:15 pm ]
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Thanks for sharing this, Fred.
Author:  Chuck [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:27 pm ]
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Having lived in Alaska for some time, I no longer live there, I found the video very interesting. Thank you
Chuck
Author:  Edward Taylor [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:45 pm ]
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Thanks for sharing this. We really need to stop raping the environment.
Author:  Frei [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:42 pm ]
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I was in the Rainforest Action group for a while, it is hard to fight. I've watched Borneo become a mango plantation. It will not take one more generation before serious problems arise.

But the left has abandoned this issue when they support endless illegal immigration to the first world, because its the consumer end that is the problem. And China is buying up alot of rainforest as tangable assets with US debt, which further dooms it. Cause they would want $$$ for it, and we won't have it....

Its ok, go have a cookie, ain't nuddin you can do bout it. We have so many problems that one hundred guitar builders stopping won't be solving any problems.
Author:  Edward Taylor [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:56 pm ]
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Sorry if my comment sounded like "we as in guitar builders", I mean the human race in general. The guitar industry probably is only an extremely small fraction of where wood is used, but I guess every acre counts.
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:24 am ]
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I go a lot for hikes or rock climbing in the Carpathians. I see clear cut hills at the side of the rock more and more often. For someone that loves nature, it is a chilling horrible sight. And none of this makes a guitar.
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:25 am ]
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edd677 wrote:
The guitar industry probably is only an extremely small fraction .


A small but growing fraction if we look at China's output of crap...
Author:  Yukon [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:43 am ]
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There's a message here and it certainly looks like a corporate agenda to me. Everyone ought to be skeptical, not just Native Americans. The end of guitar manufacturing would be a great thing, in my opinion.
Sure, Bob Taylor does the best he can - there's very little waste in his manufacturing process, but Taylor Guitars is still a factory operation. Bob's product is very high quality but his business is as much about creating profit as building instruments. The other manufacturers represented in the video are even more profit-driven (again in my opinion.) They make guitars that cost too much and guitars that cost too little and that's it. How many resources go into getting a manufactured guitar on to the walls of retail shops around the world?
The end of guitar manufacturing would be a great thing for guitar makers. The end of manufacturing in general would be a great thing for our communities and the world.
Author:  Fred Tellier [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:29 am ]
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Quote:
I go a lot for hikes or rock climbing in the Carpathians. I see clear cut hills at the side of the rock more and more often. For someone that loves nature, it is a chilling horrible sight. And none of this makes a guitar.


If you fly over the Rockies in BC and NW USA there are huge scars on the mountains from clear cut.

Fred
Author:  David Newton [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:02 pm ]
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"The end of manufacturing in general would be a great thing for our communities and the world."


I don't think there are enough caves to live in.
Author:  mateo4x4 [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:48 pm ]
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Fred Tellier wrote:
Quote:
I go a lot for hikes or rock climbing in the Carpathians. I see clear cut hills at the side of the rock more and more often. For someone that loves nature, it is a chilling horrible sight. And none of this makes a guitar.


If you fly over the Rockies in BC and NW USA there are huge scars on the mountains from clear cut.

Fred


[enter soap box mode]

I agree that clear cuts are ugly and damaging (Living in Oregon, you see it all the time). One key thing to keep in mind is that if we don't at least thin out some of the wild woodlands, we need to let forest fires do it for us. The burn/regrow cycle is natural so, if we don't let them burn once in a while we encourage diseased and week forests. Read up on the western pine beetle, currently making it's way north into Canada.

I think it boils down to management...if we (meaning us upright apes) are going to keep sticking our fingers in the pie that is nature, we need to do it responsibly. Trashing land/resources and not working with the natural cycles and processes is illogical, destructive and...well...stupid.

[exit soap box mode] beehive
Author:  JasonM [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:24 pm ]
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Struck me as the Greenpeace agenda using the coolness of guitars to further their cause. Some forests are zoned for industry, some are protected parks. There needs to be both. Clear cutting has its place in forest management.
Author:  Chris Paulick [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:57 am ]
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The key is to manage or farm. And not to over farm the resource.
Author:  David R White [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:19 pm ]
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Quote:
"The end of manufacturing in general would be a great thing for our communities and the world."


I don't think there are enough caves to live in.


...especially if they stop manufacturing caves.
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