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Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
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Author:  John Lewis [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series

Does anyone know where these can be had in the US? I have called LMI and they said the only way to get them is a special order (25+ sets) and Stewmac doesn't do special orders, per the lady I spoke with. I doubt they want something of equal quality that competes with Waverlys at 1/2 - 2/3 the price. I know that allparts can special order them in smaller quantities but at their prices you might as well buy Waverlys.

The 700 series is what LMI and Stewmac carries in stock. The 700 and 510 open backs look identical except for the script below the gear wheel says 510 instead of GOTOH. Click on the link for the 2008 Gotoh catalog - http://www.sounds-planet.com/gotoh_catalog/gotoh-e/gotoh-index.html and then the SE510/SE button to see the difference. There are a bunch of options - just click on any part of the page and it will open up a larger picture for better viewing.

The SE510, SE510M and SE510W are the same except for the spacing of the mounting screws. They all can come with normal posts, magnum locking posts (these work nice) or the 2 different HAPs (Height Adjustable Post). They all can come with any of the 10 different buttons or any finish (nickel, chrome, gold, cosmo black, X-finish nickel, X-finish chrome and X-finish gold). The Gotoh site is a little confusing - they don't explain some of the option codes. Hope this helps.

Edit: Hey Shane Neifer - can you get these buddy? I know you are a Gotoh dealer and I would rather give you my money anyway.

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Author:  Shane Neifer [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Yup John, I can get them. I got your PM and will get you some prices for the models you asked for.

Thanks

Shane
Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Shane I too would be interested in your pricing on these tuners.

Chris
Author:  John Lewis [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Shane Neifer wrote:
Yup John, I can get them. I got your PM and will get you some prices for the models you asked for.

Thanks

Shane


Thanks a bunch Shane. [:Y:]
Author:  the Padma [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Yo, Shane

Me the Padma wold be interested in some of them 510s tunner uppers.

How much and how long it take to gets them?

blessings
the
Padma
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
John was looking at a few different options in a nickel tuner so once I get those prices I will post them here so you all have an idea what you would be looking at. As John mentioned GOTOH has a lot of options but most companies won't take the time to special order. That is mostly what I do with Gotoh. If my distributor does not have them in stock, I can usually get them from Japan in 3 to 4 weeks so a little planning allows for some unique options! And not just in the open back models [:Y:] !

Thanks

Shane
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - PRICES!
Ok,

Here are some prices:

Open back 510's with oval or butterbean button - $74 per set
Same with black or ivoroid oval button - $84 per set

In gold with oval or butterbean button - $87 per set
Same with back or ivoroid oval button - $97 per set

Hope that helps!

Thanks

Shane
Author:  Arnt Rian [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Well, I'd certainly be interested if the quality is similar to their closed back 510's. John (or anyone else), have you tried them? How do they compare to other open backs, like Waverlys?
Author:  TonyKarol [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
In looking at my catalog, there is one difference between the 510 and 700 series that you might want to consider ...

the 510 plate has a flange that is 8.7mm in diameter by 4mm deep that will require a definite countersink int he headstock for the plate to mount flush. The 700s have a smaller 7.5x2mm flange that locks the post to the plate.

I havent tried the 510s, but have installed a bunch of the 700 series, both slab and slot head style. They work great IMO. The post gear is twice as wide as a waverlie and provides a solid worm/gear mesh.

I will have some in Montreal ....
Author:  donh [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Arnt Rian wrote:
Well, I'd certainly be interested if the quality is similar to their closed back 510's. John (or anyone else), have you tried them? How do they compare to other open backs, like Waverlys?


The quality is the same as their closed back, but the gear ratio is different. At 15:1, you get a bit more string feel when tuning.

Many feel that the Gotoh 510-series are far better than Waverlies, including at least one employee of Stew-Mac (I was there for the conversation).

Here's their catalog: http://www.sounds-planet.com/gotoh_cata ... index.html
Author:  John Lewis [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - PRICES!
Shane Neifer wrote:
Ok,

Here are some prices:

Open back 510's with oval or butterbean button - $74 per set
Same with black or ivoroid oval button - $84 per set

In gold with oval or butterbean button - $87 per set
Same with back or ivoroid oval button - $97 per set

Hope that helps!

Thanks





Shane




Hey Shane-

just sent you a PM about an order.

Thanks-
Author:  John Lewis [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Arnt Rian wrote:
Well, I'd certainly be interested if the quality is similar to their closed back 510's. John (or anyone else), have you tried them? How do they compare to other open backs, like Waverlys?


Hi-

I will be using one of these SE510 sets on an older guitar that needs a bunch of work, so hopefully I can give you a heads up on how well these work compared to the Waverly machines. It might be a while but I'll let everyone know.

Thanks-
Author:  Arnt Rian [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Thanks John, I ordered a couple of sets too, I'll try to remember to report my impressions as well.
Author:  TonyFrancis [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:15 pm ]
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Author:  Pmaj7 [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Hey, how did the Gotoh 510 open backs compare to the 700's and the Waverlys? (and the Grovers as long as we're at it)
Author:  B. Howard [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Sorry, my mistake.
Author:  Scott A [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
B. Howard wrote:
the Padma wrote:
Yo, Shane

Me the Padma wold be interested in some of them 510s tunner uppers.

How much and how long it take to gets them?

blessings
the
Padma



Back so soon?


I sure hope so [:Y:]
Author:  ernie [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
Hi shane e- mailed you oct 8 abt 10 sets aa lutz sent e- mail last mon ?/ no reply ?/ Do you still have any spruce in inventory, regards ernie
Author:  Beth Mayer [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
I'm with Ernie and would like to hear how the 510's have worked out for anyone who tried them. Tony K had mentioned that installation required some countersinking into the headstock...anybody find this to be more difficult than other, similar models?
Brian and Scott....The Padma made the response on this thread when it was started in 2009, so I think it's safe to say he is not back "so soon".
Author:  Scott A [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
duh
Author:  Jim_H [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gotoh open back tuners - SE510 series - ATTN SHANE NEIFER
B. Howard wrote:
the Padma wrote:
Yo, Shane

Me the Padma wold be interested in some of them 510s tunner uppers.

How much and how long it take to gets them?

blessings
the
Padma



Back so soon?


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