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Author: | James W B [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
A buddy brought his guitar over and asked if I would change his saddle to bone and his pins to bone.The thing is he likes the price and selection from one of our sponsers that carry 3 degree pins,and his guitar has 5 degree pins.I`m probably wrong,but it seems to me since 3 degree pins must be a little larger since the degree isn`t as steep, I could ream out the hole with a 3 degree reamer and get a nice fit and not cause any problems.Does this sound correct or not? James |
Author: | Pat Foster [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
Jim, The only thing I can offer to this question is that with 5° holes, I have trouble getting some ball ends all the way through the top because the bottom of the hole is too small. No problem with 3°. This might mean that what you're thinking of would work. Might. Pat |
Author: | James W B [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
That`s a good point Pat, although the customer probably doesn`tknow this.He just liked the price and selection of the 3 degree bone pins. James |
Author: | Jim_H [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
I would think that with 2 degrees difference, that diameter, particularly near the top, would be the real difference maker. If the 3 degree pins are too large at the top to seat properly, you would be better of making the pins smaller than making the holes bigger. once you ream out those holes, you can't go back without a major effort. Jim |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
I have converted several guitars from 5 to 3 degree pins as long as the diameter at the top of the pin is the same or a few thousands of an inch larger it is not a problem as you are only opening the bottom of the taper. I love 3 degree for the larger hole to get the ball end in. Since I started slotting the pin holes instead of using slotted pins the ball ends seem to pass through easier. Fred |
Author: | James W B [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
Fred are you using un-slotted 3 degree? If so where are you getting them. James |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
I got several sets from this guy on ebay http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/brucewei623/Demension9.jpg?vvid=60033177&allow_mailing_list=1&allow_track_link=1&track=027789b35d-cf127&sp=0&vsid=1&vgp=1&vimgs=Pin91.jpg,Pin92.jpg,Demension9.jpg Fred |
Author: | Alan [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
Fred Tellier wrote: I got several sets from this guy on ebay http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/brucewei623/Demension9.jpg?vvid=60033177&allow_mailing_list=1&allow_track_link=1&track=027789b35d-cf127&sp=0&vsid=1&vgp=1&vimgs=Pin91.jpg,Pin92.jpg,Demension9.jpg Fred Fred, How consistent are the diameters of the bridge pins from this seller? I bought some from a seller on ebay once and they varied a lot. I tossed them and went back to buying bridge pins from StewMac. Alan |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
They varied a 3 or 4 thousands which is a little worse than Stewmac pins but even with the Stewmac pins I keep track of what hole they fit best when changing strings. I wish there were more suppliers that sold unslotted pins, I have used 5 degree from Stewmac on my last 2 guitars. Fred |
Author: | Joe Beaver [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
I tend to think the best way is just to plug the holes.. redril and ream with a 3 degree. |
Author: | evanmelstad [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Converting 5 degree pins to 3 degree? |
LMI sells unslotted 3 degree pins. |
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