This is good news Mike thanks.!
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Thu May 07, 2009 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fish glue -little know fact |
Fish glue can be frozen and will still work fine. This printed on the label from the supplier. I will make a copy of the label and see if I can post it here. Maybe M.D.P. or someone can help out with this from the Norland web site. This info mey not be important to everyone ;but I thought it was important to post. Mike |
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| Author: | woody b [ Thu May 07, 2009 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
Interesting. It's brought up some questions in my mind. I would suspect fish glue has a limited shelf life. (like most glues) I'm guessing it might be best to freeze part of a supply to extend it's shelf life. I also wonder about freezing hot hide glue, obviously not while it's hot. It seems I'm always mixing small amounts. Could I mix and cook a bunch and freeze most of it for later use? |
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| Author: | Bill Hodge [ Thu May 07, 2009 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
This is good news Mike thanks.!
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| Author: | Colin S [ Fri May 08, 2009 5:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
Woody, yes you can freeze HG, but make sure to exclude all air and double bag it to avoid freezer burn. I make up my HG in an ice cube tray, then when it has gelled I bag up the cubes and put it in the freezer. I don't freeze fish glue, as the shelf life, if kept cool, is measured in years, according to the source the bottlers say between 2 and 5 years. I buy mine in 250ml bottles a couple at a time from Kremer and that is enough for at least ten guitars. Colin |
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| Author: | Bob Garrish [ Fri May 08, 2009 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
When I make up hide glue, I make up about ten baby-food jars worth and keep one in a shop fridge (for warming up when I need it) and the rest in the freezer. The fish glue bottle sits on the shelf out in the shop as I'm certain I'll be out of it before the bottle goes sour (two to five is a LOOOONG time!) |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Fri May 08, 2009 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
I find it interesting that you can freeze organic based glues like fish and hide, but let Titebond freeze and it goes bad. I don't know what that means but it is interesting. |
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| Author: | Alan Carruth [ Sat May 09, 2009 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
Hide glue and fish glues are solutions of proteins in water. Freezing the stuff doesn't denature the proteins, it just freezes the water. As far as I know, the aliphatics and polyvinyls are suspensions; small drops of a glue that is not water soluble which has been mixed with an emulsifier and whipped up into water. In this respect, it's like mayonnaise, and you can't freeze mayonnaise either. In the case of mayonnaise freezing it forces the little drops of oil together, and they coalesce, to float to the top when the stuff thaws. I've never tried freezing Titebond, but I suspect something similar happens. |
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| Author: | Darrin D Oilar [ Sat May 09, 2009 8:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fish glue -little know fact |
There are some smart people around here. It always amazes me the stuff that you guys know. Darrin |
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