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Author: | Nick Oliver [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:32 am ] |
Post subject: | No2 Selmer Build |
Well after threatening to finish my second Selmer build a few weeks ago, events conspired against me so I've used the chance of the easter break to finally finish the project off. After making one for a customer recently, I was so taken with how it came out & sounded that I've made this one for myself. First a few details: Scale length 25" - my personal preference to play. Top is Sitka Back and sides are Tasmanian Blackwood Bindings are black plastic ( ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm a fan of the 'clean & simple' look so I didn't install any purfling on this one. I don't think it's lost anything by leaving it out? Neck is a 2 piece Sapele with ebony headplate and ebony fingerboard. Floating bridge and moustaches are ebony with an ebony insert in the brass tailpiece. As with my first petite bouche, I again used pickups in this one as it seemed to work well in my first build (as per it's customer's instructions) & went for the "Pure Maccaferris" K&K's under the soundboard & tried an EMG FT (an active tele neck PU) in the neck. Used a Fishman endpin preamp again which allows for seperate volume controls of the piezo's and active. Unfortunately I didn't take any pics of the bracing but this one has the straight brace between the bridge and tailblock removed. Wanted to open up the top a little in conjunction with a slightly longer scale length & it seems to produce the volume so I'm pleased about that. So the pics: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Another shot showing the slight angle of the cutaway as it meets the neck. Gives a nice feel as there is no ledge for your hand to negotiate at the body join. ![]() A classic "head shot" ![]() ![]() My Kiwi inlay on the tailpiece. ![]() & finally a close up of the rosette inlay. Does anybody else notice the optical illusion? The oval curve of the rosette lines makes the string look curved, it's kinda weird when you look at it straight on, the two E strings look as though they 'neck inwards' as they go past the soundhole. ![]() |
Author: | Alexandru Marian [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Way cool, congrats! ![]() ![]() May I ask about the bridge? I suppose the center is not glued? Is it carved from the bottom to reduce weight? I am talking about carving inside the bridge, not about the center span. |
Author: | Heath Blair [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
please take this in the spirit in which it is intended. i almost didnt even click on this thread just because im just not that interested in selmer style guitars, but im glad i did. i really like that guitar. and hey, the binding looks great! good job. |
Author: | Nick Oliver [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Alexandru Marian wrote: May I ask about the bridge? I suppose the center is not glued? Is it carved from the bottom to reduce weight? I am talking about carving inside the bridge, not about the center span. Thanks Alexandru. Yes the bridge isn't glued so once the strings come off it's free to fall off the guitar! ![]() ![]() Here's a view of the bracing from a previous build. Thanks Heath for your comments, it's all very much appreciated. |
Author: | ClintB [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
That looks amazing, Nick. I'd love to try playing one of those Selmer's someday. Everything about your guitar looks beautiful. What kind of finish did you use? |
Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Very nice! Love the tailpiece. Terry |
Author: | Nick Oliver [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Thanks Terence & Clint for your positive comments. Clint, it's a 2 pot Urethane ![]() |
Author: | douglas ingram [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Very nice! I have a soft spot for Selmer type guitars. I just wish that I could play Gypsy Jazz better. Or anything better... I've built one petit bouche and will sooner or later build more, but in the meantime the classicals are what occupy me. |
Author: | Randolph [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
That's one killer guitar!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Bill Hodge [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Beautiful ![]() The body looks huge, is it just because of the sound hole or is this larger than a J-200 lower bout? |
Author: | Alain Lambert [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Congratulation, this is a very nice guitar. I have to make one of these eventually . Did you make the pliage? |
Author: | evanmelstad [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
That heel and cutaway are beautifully executed--I love it! Love to blackwood, too... sign me up! |
Author: | Kirt Myers [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Nice job! The Selmer style is on my list "to do", which is much larger than my list "done". Looks like you did the pliage. How did you do it, did you scribe the underside? Kirt |
Author: | Nick Oliver [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Thanks everybody for your kind words ![]() Bill, the lower bout is only 15 1/4" across, slightly bigger than a 000. The sound hole is 3" x 2" so that may be is what gives it that 'big' look. Alain & Kirt, yes the pliage was heat bent, I have read of people scoring the bend but wanted to retain the tops integrity so just bent on the pliage line using my trusty heating iron. I didn't bend all the way out to the edge though, I only went out about 2/3rds from the centre seam, that way the edge pulls down into a straight line when gluing to the sides. Here's a picture I took before any of the 'hardware' went on which shows the pliage line nicely. ![]() And another of a previous build, although this one I bent from the pliage back to the tailblock forming a gentle curve back to the tail, whereas the build I have shown just had the one bend at the pliage. ![]() |
Author: | Alain Lambert [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Thank you Nick for the picture. If I remember correctly, the Selmer have no side profiles, ie the sides are straight ( also at the waist) is that correct? |
Author: | Bill Hodge [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Thanks for sharing it with us Nick. I'd love to hear some sound clips of it ![]() Maybe I scanned too fast above and missed it but what kind of finish did you use. It looks great ![]() |
Author: | Nick Oliver [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: No2 Selmer Build |
Alain Lambert wrote: Thank you Nick for the picture. If I remember correctly, the Selmer have no side profiles, ie the sides are straight ( also at the waist) is that correct? The Selmer is very much a 3 dimensional shape, not only does it taper 1/2" from neck to tailblock but because the back and top are domed the sides are anything but straight. Here's a pic I took of my previous build illustrating this, the waist is probably the widest part of the sides & the lower bout the narrowest. The top (as well as the pliage) has a 12 foot radius changing to a 7 foot at the bridge with a longitudinal of about 25 foot & the back is a 12 foot radius. The top is uppermost with the back sitting on it's dish (which gives the impression that it's flat but it is pretty close to the top profile). ![]() Bill, I break with tradition and use a 2 pot urethane ![]() |
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