Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:19 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:06 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:46 pm
Posts: 2
Location: Honduras
Has anybody figured out a low cost system for uv curing finishes? The cheapest I've found is just under $2,000 from uvIII.
Thanks!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:46 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 am
Posts: 2351
Location: Canada
First name: Bob
Last Name: Garrish
City: Toronto
State: Ontario
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
There's a big room outside your shop that'll do the trick: blue ceiling, big yellow light in it...but it's a bit slow. It has worked for some in a pinch, though...

The bulbs and ballasts in the UV lamps are pretty expensive and I think even if you were going to build the lamp it'll end up over 1K. I'd love to know if you find a cheaper place, though, since around the 2K mark is a good price last I was looking into it.

_________________
Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:44 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:55 pm
Posts: 3820
Location: Taiwan
First name: Tai
Last Name: Fu
City: Taipei
Country: Taiwan
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
Would a tanning bed work in a pinch? Or perhaps one of those fluorescent lights that only emits UV rays designed for sanitizing stuff...

_________________
Cat-gut strings are made from kitten guts, stretched out to near breaking point and then hardened with grue saliva. As a result these give a feeling of Pain and anguish whenever played, and often end up playing themselves backwards as part of satanic rituals.

Typhoon Guitars
http://www.typhoon-guitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:46 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:51 am
Posts: 2148
Location: San Diego, CA
First name: Andy
Last Name: Zimmerman
City: San Diego
State: CA
Zip/Postal Code: 92103
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Send a PM to Joe White. He probably has a good answer

_________________
Andy Z.
http://www.lazydogguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:18 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 am
Posts: 2351
Location: Canada
First name: Bob
Last Name: Garrish
City: Toronto
State: Ontario
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
They need a specific wavelength of UV light to cure the finishes, so odds are that a random UV light from another application won't do the trick.

_________________
Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:06 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:06 am
Posts: 24
Location: United States
If someone is serious about needing a light contact me privately via email or PM. I might be able to help.

Fred


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:05 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:30 pm
Posts: 1041
Location: United States
The sun will take a week to fully cure the finish. A bulb with the incorrect bandwidth will not
fully cure it...no matter how long the exposure time.

$2k is in the ballpark for curing the UV finishes available from the best manufacturers of it.
Buying bulbs and other components to try to build a unit puts in an extremely dangerous position.
One slip and you'll be no more...so unless you're expereinced in working with high voltages....
leave that to the guys who are selling them already built and ready to point at a guitar.

Check periodically with Gordon at UBIII and you may catch a slightly used or a refurbished
unit at a nice discount. That's how I got my first one.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:27 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:55 pm
Posts: 3820
Location: Taiwan
First name: Tai
Last Name: Fu
City: Taipei
Country: Taiwan
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
Kevin Gallagher wrote:
The sun will take a week to fully cure the finish. A bulb with the incorrect bandwidth will not
fully cure it...no matter how long the exposure time.

$2k is in the ballpark for curing the UV finishes available from the best manufacturers of it.
Buying bulbs and other components to try to build a unit puts in an extremely dangerous position.
One slip and you'll be no more...so unless you're expereinced in working with high voltages....
leave that to the guys who are selling them already built and ready to point at a guitar.

Check periodically with Gordon at UBIII and you may catch a slightly used or a refurbished
unit at a nice discount. That's how I got my first one.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars


Is it any more dangerous than working with tube amps?

_________________
Cat-gut strings are made from kitten guts, stretched out to near breaking point and then hardened with grue saliva. As a result these give a feeling of Pain and anguish whenever played, and often end up playing themselves backwards as part of satanic rituals.

Typhoon Guitars
http://www.typhoon-guitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:11 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:30 pm
Posts: 1041
Location: United States
Tai,

It's similar to working with tube amp components and anyone who has knows the dangers there.
I believe that the wattages and amperages are much higher in the UV light fixture, though.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], meddlingfool and 67 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com