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Author: | joekelly9692 [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | z poxy question and hi from new member |
hi every one ......great forum......for years i have been filling the pores in my guitars with what ever finish i was using at the time. although it looks very natural and clean i have had enough......im losing so much money through time wasted by constant cutting the finish back that i am going to start using a grain filler........i enjoy using dust and shellac but thought i would use z poxy to give it a try ....im still waiting for it to arrive in the post and i was wondering if the z poxy drags some of oils out of the rosewoods into maple bindings etc and would i have to seal the lighter bindings before using the z poxy???? ![]() |
Author: | jordan aceto [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: z poxy question and hi from new member |
I have never had Z-poxy drag any color, the way alcohol dissolved shellac does. |
Author: | Hesh [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:34 pm ] |
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Welcome to the OLF Joe! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Mike OMelia [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:33 pm ] |
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Todd, How do you thin z-poxy? BTW, to the OP, I just did my first use of z-poxy. On my next use, I plan to seal before cutting the binding slots, etc. Then go back and seal those. Perhaps if I get a good 6" squeegee and learn how to thin it, that won't be a concern. But I really hate all that sanding when the binding is on. The stuff is amazingly hard when cured. Just my thoughts. Mike |
Author: | Darrin D Oilar [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:33 am ] |
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Welcome Joe!! Darrin |
Author: | jordan aceto [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:13 am ] |
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Mike O'Melia wrote: Todd, How do you thin z-poxy? BTW, to the OP, I just did my first use of z-poxy. On my next use, I plan to seal before cutting the binding slots, etc. Then go back and seal those. Perhaps if I get a good 6" squeegee and learn how to thin it, that won't be a concern. But I really hate all that sanding when the binding is on. The stuff is amazingly hard when cured. Just my thoughts. Mike You can thin z-poxy with alcohol. z-poxy is a bear to sand, but it scrapes like a dream, and you dont fill your shop with horrible dust when you scrape. Normal razor blades work well, as do scraper blades. |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:33 am ] |
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If mixed right and properly cured Zpoxy sands fine. It was designed as a finish resin for fiberglass surfaces (final coat). It was designed to be fine sanded and polished. That said I have gotten the occasional and rare batch that cured a tad rubbery but for the most part it sands fine if truly cured. It also scrapes quite well too. Zpoxy is a very forgiving 1:1 ratio mixture. You can get the ratio off by as much as 5%-10% either way and it will still cure out. However being off that much will likely cause the cured film to be rubbery. So for the best possible sand-ability accurately measure part A and part B. then mix. |
Author: | joekelly9692 [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: z poxy question and hi from new member |
thanks for the welcome and replies every one......i had two guitars to fill this morning....i filled one with dust and shellac and the other with z poxy finishing resin.....both were as simple to use than each other and both look real nice but i will have to slush fill the z poxy tommorow but the shellac dust one is all ready to go......i use a shellac barrier coat then colortone waterbase sealer and lacquer.........mmmmmm finishing......a real chore that seems to get tougher as the years go by....lol |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: z poxy question and hi from new member |
SLUSH FILL? pleas explain? |
Author: | joekelly9692 [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: z poxy question and hi from new member |
hi Michael.......a slush fill is just a term used for applying a thinned down version of the full strength grain filler....i think i pick up that term slush fill from the cumpiano book.......mmmm not sure........some finishing book....ahhhh....... the stewmac finishing book......... |
Author: | Mike OMelia [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: z poxy question and hi from new member |
Will the addition of alcohol increase the tendancy of some woods to bleed? Thanks for all the good tips! Mike |
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