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Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  X Braced Back Questions

Okay folks...X Braced back here. What do you think?

One of my concerns is when you flex the back across the lower bout (at it's widest point)..it's really kind of flimsey. I know that to a degree this will be solved when I close the box but will that be enough? X brace dimensions are 250 x 625 thou.

Chris

Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Compared to a normal 4 brace back you have a lot more unbraced space. Maybe you can add two more braces across it at the X center point. Also, why no strip on the center seam. I would either cover them all, or none :mrgreen:

Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Alexandru - this is a 3 piece back so there are actually 2 seams down the middle. The wood in the middle is Brazilian Cherry, the outside is Mahogany. There are 2 cross grain seam strips running down the length of the back. The black line that runs down the middle of the Brazilian Cherry is a pencil mark so I can keep track of the centerline of the guitar. I have considered adding an individual brace across the widest part of the lower bout....but wanted to get other opinions. Thanks for weighing in.

Chris

Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Pfff I must be getting old...I could have sworn I was seeing the grains doing a V in a perfect bookmatched center piece. Sorry!

1 minute later edit: looked again and it still looks a lot like a bookmatch with a center seam especially in the 3rd pic. :D:D

Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

Alexandru....you are right!!!!!!..............geeeeeezzzzzzzzzz

Good thing I am not claiming to be a professional

The brazilian cherry IS a bookmatched wedge with no seam strip.

Too late now!

laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

I have to laugh.....

Author:  StevenWheeler [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

I put the X in the middle of the back with cross braces above and below it. The backs I've seen braced like yours have two braces crosswise from the center of the X.

Steve

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Try this

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all lower bout bracing 1/4" thick x 5/8" finish height

Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Thank ya Mr. Payne....that is exactly what I am going to do.

Chris

Author:  Lars Stahl [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: X Braced Back Questions

Post more photos "before you close the box !!!! I had tons of help as doing that, brace gights width etc. thickness !! Also its not to late to put a centerceam on there "if you want one that is !! depending on how well its glued i guess ?? you could as a measure of securety just ad some diamonds along the ceam. " like in cumpianos book on the bottom of the top.
are the braces supposed to be left like this or are you planning to chisel them more ? idunno
Personally I just closed the box with the same back bracing as Michael is showing you, and the tone was exellent.
Looks really cool though.

Lars.

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